LordHumungus wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 12:11am:

I quit the game six years ago (!!) and have yet to find a suitable replacement for DDO. Even DDO can't fill that void - I tried coming back a couple of times, and each time I quickly realized that things had gotten much worse than when I left. It's sad, the game was once a real gem.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 10:55am:

You say that like it would be some horrible,  game breaking event.

LordHumungus wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 6:01pm:


It would breath quite a bit of new life into the old content since you'd have people farming now, not just for "that one thing" but just "3 of any one thing". Even if a lot of people got the stuff right away, what would be the harm?

The single biggest problem would be the backlash from all the assholes who got there eSoS the old-fashioned way and are enormously butt-hurt that someone else didn't have to leave theres up to the fickle whims of fate.

I have seen 3 eSoS shards drop in the last 2 months. None have dropped for me and none have gone up for roll.

5 Foot Step wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 10:55am:

And?
Is this somehow a bad thing?
How many of those level 20 epic items are even worth equipping these days?  Everyone wants an eSoS, or a eTorc (but only after you have a second Torc), but who wants an Epic Shining Crest of St. Markus, or an Epic Kundarak Warding Shield?  Or any number of other items that new random loot have made marginal or that were just never very great to begin with?
I vendor most of the non-epic crap any time I pick them up, because it's all BoA junk.

Rubbinns wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2016 at 11:29pm:

Nah, I'll just buy useful items for 5 or 10 commendations of this or that faction that are equal to or better than items that took months to farm and the lucky s/s/s to improve to a level 20 'epic' version.

Never managed to pull the s/s/s to upgrade your Gloves of the Claw?  No big deal, 5 PDK Comms gets you the PDK Gauntlets.  And 5 PDK Comms is maybe 2 quests and one run through an explorer looking for rare spawns, a couple hours time, tops.

Anyone on their first run through epic levels now has ready access to gear equivalent or better than what used to take months or years for people to get access to.  So there's no reason that I can tell for keeping the system as it is.  It used to be an end game system, and when it was an end game system making it take a long time made some sense.  That's no longer the case.  Other than the fact that by releasing all these easy to get commendation items they also made it fairly pointless for them to do any actual development work making it easier for people to access the s/s/s epic items.

Frank wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2016 at 12:59am:

Way better items from comms and random gen now. But, there are a few nice items in the old epics. ESoS, EAGA, Claw set, Abishai set, some dope clickies like mass deathward, 2minute haste, spell absorb charges on mirror cloak. All useful shit, but not build making.

It was incredible at level 20 cap. And the loot was really fucking well made. Flavor clickes like meteor swarm on hellfire crossbow and it gives precise shot feat. Or brimstone verge having combustion and maximize wand meta. Or augment summoning on roderick's wand. Mobility on bracers of deftness, the torc, chaos blades, on and on. It's like people who loved playing the game and understood reasons why some players would make certain builds were making the loot back then.

KilgoreTrout wrote on Jun 4^th, 2016 at 6:53pm:


Ahem, and MANAGED by a different team as well.

The dumb fucking forum mobo nazi has pretty much guaranteed that I won't ever spend another dime on this game.
If he is trying to drive paying customers away, he's doing a great fucking job.

Another easy way to revitalize old content is to simply un-obsolete the old epic gear.

Like, how about making the base item plus the scroll create an Epic Normal version and the Seal/Shard adds upgrades.

Stuff that royally sucks right now could just get an upgrade to be like a nice level 22 item and the seal/shard could turn it into an incredibly nice ML22 item.
Epic Azure Necklace of Prophecy
Original Heroic Item
+ Scroll: Magnetism: +120, Lightning Resistance +30, Colorless Augment
+ Seal: Add Insightful Magnetism +60, Upgrade Augment slot to Yellow
+ Shard: Add Electric Lore +16, Upgrade Augment slot to Green

Stuff that’s highly sought after could stay the same, but at least make the wal mart version would be something to get excited over.
Epic Sword of Shadows
Original Heroic Item (Retains threat range/multiplier from heroic version)
+ Scroll: +6 Enhancement Bonus, 2W base damage
+ Seal: +8 Enhancement Bonus, Colorless Augment
+ Shard: +10 Enhancement Bonus, 2.5W base damage, Red Augment Slot

QuantumFX wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 1:56am:

The problem word in that sentence is "simply".

First, the current loot designer is fucking clueless. When they get it "right" (meaning players actually want it), the item makes all others obsolete. When they get it wrong, nobody except maybe Fran wants it.

Second, if Turbine had a map, the section where old epics are would be marked, "Here There Be Olde Code", with pictures of spaghetti and in smaller print, "You have been eaten by a Grue".

QuantumFX wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 1:56am:


You forget that the Turbine business model is "Ever forward into new bugs, no time to look back at the old bugs."