I kinda love how Jerry trolled so many people into wasting their time suggesting ideas for changes to the mail system, items storage, etc.  Some of them good.

Unfortunately for all three pages of them:
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This means it's already been coded, and after that they have just slightly less than zero incentive to make any further changes to make things work well for their customers.

My only hope is that the fix will actually fucx the mail into something usable.

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 9:11pm:


This is the stuff that really fucks people off.
Don't ask for advice if you had no intention of ever using it.
As you said Frank, given the timing, it would have already been done and dusted.  And they ignored some of the better suggestions and went with the path of least effort (as always).
The asking for input was just a smokescreen.

They think people are so fucking stupid as to not see thru their stupid PR games.
Wish they would sack this pack of douche bags and hire some competents.

Wipe wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 7:41pm:


TR Cache is a special case... It's not tied to the character ( otherwise it wouldn't survive a TR ).

Just for the sake of clarity :
The TR process is the following in the background :

When you use your Heart, your character name gets stored in a special location with some data ( number of TR, Class by level, ... ) totally separate from the character sheet.
In that dataset there's a pointer towards a special location called TR Cache where all the items in the character inventory are stored.
This whole data storage is retrievable through a Pointer, not through the character name.

When you hit the Reincarnate button, the game engine asks you for confirmation, once it is confirmed, it updates the special location with the latest dataset, stores the pointer towards that location, then it sends a delete character message to the server. Once the character has been deleted, the game goes to the character creation screen... you go through the whole process, and once you have finished, the game sends a create character message to the server with the new datas, During the process the game uses the pointer towards the data storage to check stuff like classes by level, and to retrieve the character name once you are ready to enter the world.

I suspect that the TR Cache is not even directly in that datastore saved during TR... but only a pointer towards a specific cache is stored in that datastore....
So to reach a TR Cache from a character the game has to follow two different pointers...

Turbine has no easy way to tie a TR Cache to a given character, as it's not tied directly to the character.  ( because they don't have a real DBA around to do the thing )
And also since it's not directly in the character information, it doesn't clutter the normal game... It only comes into account when you open the bank. Then it has to follow the pointers to retrieve the TR Cache content. ( that's also why they have difficulties looking into the caches... that's the only location in the Spaghetti code where the TR Cache content lookup  can be found. )

[] wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 7:43pm:


God help me, I actually agree with this "person" for once.

OldCoaly wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 7:38am:


just a WAG from my side, as I'm not munch into chain TR....
Anyway, Items are moved from that special location to the actual TR Cache at the time you appear in The Grotto entrance area to be nagged by Jeets.
But then it means that they should be able to tie the TR Cache to a specific character and look into it offline like they can look into inventories.

I keep my mailbox very clean. That mail icon bugs me for some reason.

noamineo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

Same.

Frank wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 10:59pm:

It is never as simple as you think and every action has a reaction.  Add in the fact the Turdbine never does anything right on the first try, there might be bennies.  You must not remember when mail boxes were extremely useful.

Soul wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:


Do you even think about it, faggot?

Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:


Some still are already...  Just because they say they are fixing X doesn't mean they aren't trying to fix Y...

Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 8:15pm:


Exactly.  And location.

[] wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 6:57pm:


Flipping burgers at McDonald's down in Puerto Rico doesn't really indicate that you know what you are talking about when discussing database performance issues.