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Re: Furicannon Build (Thrower/Bow hybrid)
Reply #275 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 3:38pm
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It is sort of an awesome dual box red name killer for solo'ing stuff.
  
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Reply #276 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:15pm
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Oh hmm, Elf AA shadow arrows are bugged still?

Wow, what are the odds. Just make the 69 basic repeater ranger, and use a bow for manyshot.
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Reply #277 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:18pm
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Whats wrong with Shadow arrows?
  
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Re: Furicannon Build (Thrower/Bow hybrid)
Reply #278 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:27pm
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harharharhar wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:18pm:
Whats wrong with Shadow arrows?


The racial version does not apply the crit multi.
  
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Reply #279 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:39pm
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You can combo the crit range in 12 DWS with the crit multi in kensei. No need for Holy Sword.

12 ranger/6 fighter/2 whatevs

41 in helf AA
24 in DWS
11 in Kensei

Leaves no room for KTA though unless you only take 1 point in Killer.

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...also no room to qualify for AA, lol. See below, 20 fighter is a better idea.
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Reply #280 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:53pm
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Just make a 69 basic repeater ranger, except with the zen archery feat, and in FoTW instead of LD, with DoF twisted.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/456590-69-basic-repeater-ranger

Now I know why they didn't enable the elf AA crit multiplier. To balance out 10k stars sustained damage with pure ranger burst.
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Reply #281 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:29pm
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Better yet, 18+ fighter gets power surge and an extra crit multi for 15 secs. If you go pure the t5+capstone competes well with AA. Also 100 extra ranged power feats.
  
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Reply #282 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:33pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 4:39pm:
Leaves no room for KTA though unless you only take 1 point in Killer.


why would you take take Killer for a red named DPS glass cannon build? You would always have zero to 1 stack, after the boss is dead.
  
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Reply #283 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:36pm
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What if you coupled this with rogue/assassinate to make something that could actually get through quests (sneak past everything, assassinate that which you must, burst down red names)?

Can it be done? If INT based, maybe...You don't need crit range, just multi, since Adren/Manyshot volleys where the bulk of hte damage comes from are autocritting anyway.

Another option might be some bard version with Coup De Grace but I think that only DC's off of Charisma? I never played a real bard.
  
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Reply #284 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:42pm
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harharharhar wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:33pm:
why would you take take Killer for a red named DPS glass cannon build? You would always have zero to 1 stack, after the boss is dead.


The premise is fastest kobold time, not actually being useful in the game. That split didn't work out anyway. Pretty sure 18+ fighter is gonna be the fastest time.
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Reply #285 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 6:59pm
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Not sold on losing sniper shot. We have a history... if I leave she takes half...
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Reply #286 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 7:15pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 5:42pm:
The premise is fastest kobold time


Yes, you suggested Killer, which makes no sense on a Red Named DPS build. I pointed out your error, and you literally just echoed back what I had written to you.

Are you a poorly programmed Chatbot?
  
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Reply #287 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 7:22pm
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Re: Furicannon Build (Thrower/Bow hybrid)
Reply #288 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 7:23pm
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harharharhar wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 7:15pm:
Yes, you suggested Killer, which makes no sense on a Red Named DPS build. I pointed out your error, and you literally just echoed back what I had written to you.

Are you a poorly programmed Chatbot?


No error on my part. There's 4 trash kobolds right there to charge it up the same way they are used to charge blitz pretest.
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Re: Furicannon Build (Thrower/Bow hybrid)
Reply #289 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 7:41pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 7:23pm:
No error on my part. There's 4 trash kobolds right there to charge it up the same way they are used to charge blitz pretest.


If you ahve to spend 1 minute prepping you aren't really killing the Kobold very fast. That's idiotic.

Although I guess the entire point of this build is sort of stupid and for shits anyway. But any longer than 10 seconds of prep seems lame
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Reply #290 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 8:15pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 7:23pm:
There's 4 trash kobolds right there to charge it up the same way they are used to charge blitz pretest.

You can mortal fear them?
  
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Reply #291 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 8:53pm
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Guys could you please move your Fightcher discussion in the new "Kobold Slayer" thread?
Some of us are only interested in shuriken/bow hybrid builds. Thx.

The timings are just an estimation of how good the DPS is, it doesn't mean it will perform the same in every content.
  
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Reply #292 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 9:51pm
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aren't you charging archers focus on the kobolds?

If a monkcher is at 17 seconds solely off 6 ranger levels, doesn't seem like a fighter beats it.

The 20 ranger should though.
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Reply #293 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 10:13pm
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aren't you charging archers focus on the kobolds?

If a monkcher is at 17 seconds solely off 6 ranger levels, doesn't seem like a fighter beats it.

The 20 ranger should though.

Guess it's mortal fear on trash until you stack killer and harrier. I'm thinking the wolf build could actually do it. It's 60~ base dstrike, 20 killer, 30 ten cuts, total 110% doublestrike. Attack speed 15 haste, 30 swf, 10 harrier, 30 haste boost, total 85%. 

The ranger/helf capstone aa gets 130~ doubleshot with killer during manyshot in fury.
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Reply #294 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 11:12pm
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So the question then becomes, is throwing or repeater use better on the pure 20 ranger?

Killer charges up in normal dungeon runs before boss.
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Reply #295 - Sep 3rd, 2016 at 11:15pm
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20 ranger thrower during manyshot downtime better than a 20 ranger repeater user?

Thrower would be worse off without ninja spy cores, and throwing dedicates a twist slot.
  
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Reply #296 - Sep 4th, 2016 at 11:50am
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Rubbinns wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 8:15pm:
You can mortal fear them?


Yes, they are one-shottable. Time pops as 0.3 seconds if you get a mortal fear proc on the first attack.
  
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Reply #297 - Sep 4th, 2016 at 2:59pm
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Mmm... too bad I already have my 3 ranger past lives. I guess monkcher it is. TY for the build.
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Reply #298 - Sep 4th, 2016 at 7:27pm
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Digimonk wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 12:45am:
News flash - there's more to DDO than killing a boss. 

Even if those builds kill the dojo kobold 2s faster, they're going to suck during all the time you spend killing trash without furyshot charged and boosts running so why bother?  This thread has already shit all over the fight club rule. 

Coming up with a build that can kill the kobold in 10s even if it sucks at everything else in the game will just get stuff nerfed for no reason.  All the devs will hear about from the mobo paladins is "OMGZ  10 SECONDZ MANYSHOOTZ TIMEZ!!!!111!!  NERFZ THEM!!!111"

It's just like the ship runspeed buff.  It was completely fine, didn't hurt anyone, and was even a nice little quality of life perk for most players.   All it took to get it removed was one overly chatty fanboi (fangirl?) trying to look smart and impress the sheep on the mobos and *poof*, there it went.


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Reply #299 - Sep 4th, 2016 at 7:33pm
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Halfmaniac wrote on Sep 3rd, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Guys could you please move your Fightcher discussion in the new "Kobold Slayer" thread?
Some of us are only interested in shuriken/bow hybrid builds. Thx.

The timings are just an estimation of how good the DPS is, it doesn't mean it will perform the same in every content.


Agreed. Back in topic, is there a speed cap or not? Is haste boost useful for this build?
  
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