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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #75 - Dec 17^th, 2016 at 9:58pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 6:43am: Please, stop with the apologies for being such a gimp player.� You only embarrass yourself.� Good players can run HE BB all the way up to epics, even on a fucking Cleric.� Only then do things change, because the mechanics involved with the gimp class.� Combine a gimp class with a gimp player, and you've got a Rubbins, running HN to level up and gear his character.� How sad. I got no dog in this fight, but claiming that Rubbins is embarrassing himself for running EN and EH dailies to level is kinda clueless. EVERYBODY runs EN/EH Spies, Wiz King, Von3, Mirror, etc for leveling in epics. On life 1 and on life 36. EVERYBODY. Because XP/min. Not because they can't run anything else. You need a different argument to make the point you are trying to make.


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Lhynn DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 404 Joined: Oct 26^th, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #76 - Dec 18^th, 2016 at 10:27am	Print Post
	True hardcore players only on play Elite, even on casual difficulty quests or when its not time effective.


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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #77 - Dec 18^th, 2016 at 12:07pm	Print Post
	Lhynn wrote on Dec 18^th, 2016 at 10:27am: True hardcore players only on play Elite, even on casual difficulty quests or when its not time effective. Noob -> Flower Sniffer -> Elites only -> Zerger -> Piker -> AFK for 6 months

	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3532 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #78 - Dec 18^th, 2016 at 12:31pm	Print Post
	anyone who isnt playing exclusively on elite in all conditions, and with some form of dungeon alert that causes harried is a flower sniffer but unlike the other posters i really dont care what your game experience is. power to you for playing a game the way you want. in fact i prefer having some flower sniffers gathering extra xp in mostly empty halls while i kite red alert mobs into chokepoints and impassable geography invis is for the weak

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #79 - Dec 18^th, 2016 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Dec 17^th, 2016 at 9:58pm: I got no dog in this fight, but claiming that Rubbins is embarrassing himself for running EN and EH dailies to level is kinda clueless.� EVERYBODY runs EN/EH Spies, Wiz King, Von3, Mirror, etc for leveling in epics.� On life 1 and on life 36.� �EVERYBODY.� Because XP/min.� Not because they can't run anything else.� You need a different argument to make the point you are trying to make. You'd have a point, if that was at all what I claimed, or at all what Rubbins said.� Let me remind you what was said: Rubbinns wrote on Dec 15^th, 2016 at 3:55pm: I leveled on normal and hard solos, and piked ee where I could. This isn't "running dailies on EH with bb turned off because it's faster XP/min."� No, it's a statement by him that his leveling was done on N and H, and E when he could pike. "E when you can pike" is not a claim that dailies are run on N/H for XP/min, it's a claim that he can't solo E. His words, not mine. I wouldn't have a problem if he cared to qualify his statement.� Maybe he didn't mean what he said, but I'm not a mind reader.
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	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Lhynn DQ Assaulter Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 404 Joined: Oct 26^th, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #80 - Dec 18^th, 2016 at 5:37pm	Print Post
	Swiped signet just kicked my ass.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3489 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #81 - Dec 18^th, 2016 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	I don't know what Crank is trying to argue anymore, but this was Rubbins' original point: Rubbinns wrote on Dec 12^th, 2016 at 4:01pm: you shouldnt have a hard time on LH solo even on a first life 28pt build. You can go caster cleric, wis based and reach the required Dcs easily since gear/stat inflation is overkill for anything under elite. at lv cap you should easily hit 60+ dc for all spells and that is enough to nuke through hard, handily. assuming your crafter levels arent in the 300+ range, and you dont have slaver mats or lgs mats. you can grab some of the more recent named loot. mainly the orbs, cloaks, and rings are all really good for casters right now. Now, if you are too bloody thick to understand what was inferred here, let me explain: Any first life 28pt toon shouldn't have a hard time soloing LH after* he collects the needed gear. Any first life 28pt toon should acquire the gear* by any means necessary to be able to solo LH. Any first life 28pt toon shouldn't not be attempting to solo LH while running naked. LH (EH) is not that hard to beat, you fucking gimps.�


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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #82 - Dec 18^th, 2016 at 7:55pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Dec 18^th, 2016 at 4:54pm: Stupid pedantic arguments. Herpa derp. Hole's getting deeper.
	« Last Edit: Dec 18^th, 2016 at 8:06pm by Digimonk »

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #83 - Dec 19^th, 2016 at 4:45am	Print Post
	Oh look, Rubbins has his own little harem of white knights more than happy to speak for him and misunderstand and/or misrepresent a single sentence. Bravo, Ash and DeSmall. And then of course there's Mookie, who would gladly suck Rubbins' dick for a week, or anyone elses' for that matter, just so he can prove yet again just how fucking stupid he is.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #84 - Dec 19^th, 2016 at 5:14am	Print Post
	guys, it's impossible to solo hards on a cleric. gonna need screenshots. pls.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #85 - Dec 19^th, 2016 at 11:23am	Print Post
	rubbin one out for rubbins

	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #86 - Dec 19^th, 2016 at 11:28am	Print Post
	So you think whenever someone claims that they have/can solo something, it implies that they have never grouped at all ever up to that point? ... Sorry, that's just dumb.

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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #87 - Dec 19^th, 2016 at 11:29am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 4:45am: Herpa derp!


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #88 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:13am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 5:14am: guys, it's impossible to solo hards on a cleric. gonna need screenshots. pls. So that's your clarification? Sweet. Then your quote in my .sig is perfectly appropriate. Go on running normal/hard to level up, there's no shame in it. Well, unless you also claim that you can run the new content on Hard on your first life toons. Then, screen shot or it didn't happen, because you've already admitted that you are lame.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #89 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:38am	Print Post
	Digimonk wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 11:29am: If I suck enough cock maybe the cool kids will like me! Poor Mooke, always struggling with your Daddy issues and self esteem. Someday you might get over them, but that day is decades of therapy away.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #90 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 1:12pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Dec 15^th, 2016 at 3:11pm: I'm an adult, I can stand to be shown that I'm wrong and I will learn and adapt from the experience. For the past two months, you've herpa derped so hard that you've worked your way through half the Vault's Who's Who list telling you that you're gay and retarded. For reference (and these are just the ones from this thread): Rubbinns wrote on Dec 13^th, 2016 at 12:31pm: Frank wrote on Dec 13^th, 2016 at 10:46am: It's probably not impossible to run those at LH with that build and those limitations, but you'll need SP pots and a lot of time. for you. Revaulting wrote on Dec 13^th, 2016 at 11:44pm: Archers that hit you. There's your problem. WeHaveLived wrote on Dec 14^th, 2016 at 12:48pm: You kinda made your own strawman, tied yourself to it, and set it on fire here. WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Dec 15^th, 2016 at 12:58pm: uninstall, yes my padawan Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 4:44am: No one claimed that they had to be naked to solo LH but you, Idiot. Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 7:18am: My God, you can't be that dumb, can you? Where did anyone claim you have to also fucking Level on Solo while not getting any gear at all? ...Stop spreading your stupid everywhere. Quote: Frank is gay and retarded and I'm tired of seeing his ignorant bullshit on every build thread. eighnuss wrote on Dec 16^th, 2016 at 12:08pm: bro you are on the decline i used to think frank posts were decent but you are letting digimonk make you turn into a child get that immature shit out of your signature you fucking idiot and try to retain SOME of your credibility for fucks sake Quote: Way to totally derail a thread Frank. Ya Asshat. Asheras wrote on Dec 17^th, 2016 at 9:58pm: I got no dog in this fight, but claiming that Rubbins is embarrassing himself for running EN and EH dailies to level is kinda clueless.� ... You need a different argument to make the point you are trying to make.� 5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 11:28am: So you think whenever someone claims that they have/can solo something, it implies that they have never grouped at all ever up to that point?� ... Sorry, that's just dumb. Which brings us back to this:


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #91 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 1:44pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 10:13am: new content on Hard on your first life toons.� hahahaaaa

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3532 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #92 - Dec 21^st, 2016 at 4:15pm	Print Post
	frank is fucking officially gay and retarded by demonstration fuck this retard he actually believes that everyone in the thread is shitting on him because they are rubbins fanboys instead of because hes right. he isnt even reading the posts you people make so stop trying. the only thing worth debating at this point in the thread is that everyone knows rubbins is right and frank due to his own inability to recognize reality beyond the confines of his skull believes he is right. what makes a person so mentally deficient? i would have to assume a lack of experience, coupled with frustration at being exposed as a retard, is what is causing franks failure to engage in real discussion in this thread. What do you think?

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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #93 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:43am	Print Post
	for the record I have read 0 of frank's posts because the first sentence is usually silly and I reflexively follow rubbins since he is clearly the heart and soul of the vault his wit is unparalleled by everyone except KNN, his silliness is much greater than frank and his complete donkey fucking lack of authority is only challenged by Strakeln the big gay fag dick munching cat rapist leader we call... cuck fuck. frank grow a pair. a big part of that is relaxing. the alpha male doesn't walk around with his chest puffed out. he lets the lancer do that <3 you all
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	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #94 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 7:03am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 1:44pm: hahahaaaa It is funny, isn't it?

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Deltabravo Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 22 Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #95 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 11:21am	Print Post
	Just go 3 monk 17 cleric. (can swap 1 monk lvl for a fighter gives +/- ) useing HW. Max wisdom out. only take highten quicken and embolden as spell feats. Go with all the TWF Feat inc. Epic. Dire charge. and stunning fist. rest of the feats ill leave up to you what you find fun.. i have my own choices here. you can easy find yours . Yes people think you cant play LH With a battle cleric. Well you can.. And if you twink yout toon. just a little and you will find yourself with a trash killing super nova. along with great DC that kills with Destruction/slay liveing and implosion.. and CC the mobs with stun and GC. and can survie the hordes and easy kill in melee.� It even works on LE. soloed LE slavers and others with np and no pots used. Iam atm working on a few PL. but when done ill send som proof with solo pictures.
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #96 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 11:54am	Print Post
	Deltabravo wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 11:21am: Yes people think you cant play LH With a battle cleric. Well you can.. And if you twink yout toon. This seems to be a large part of the issue.� People here seem to equate "first life" with "A new toon I twink the fuck out of with gear earned far above what the character could earn by itself."� And/or some variant of "I pike and pick up scraps where I can." Neither is really a first life experience. Check out Voodu Spice and his new series running a true first life Druid up from 1-30.� He is a very skilled player, despite criticisms I've seen about his build not completing solo LE Slaver's in record times.� It's not about breaking record times, it's about beating the content.� But that's with an epic completionist, which frankly anyone should be able to do, even Mookie. He's just posted his heroic Tor with dragons run, and he beat all 3 dragons on HE at level.� That is something I don't think a first life Cleric can do, because they don't have the wide variety of damage types that a Druid has access to plus cheap and effective SLAs, and despite having access to the best healing spells in the the game Clerics don't have a reactive heal like Spring Resurgence.� And they have a pitiful 2 skill points per level, while Druids get 4 per level and a wider skill list.
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	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #97 - Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:11pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 11:54am: He's just posted his heroic Tor with dragons run, and he beat all 3 dragons on HE at level.� That is something I don't think a first life Cleric can do, because they don't have the wide variety of damage types that a Druid has access to plus cheap and effective SLAs, and despite having access to the best healing spells in the the game Clerics don't have a reactive heal like Spring Resurgence.� And they have a pitiful 2 skill points per level, while Druids get 4 per level and a wider skill list. DP dopey DP

	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3532 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #98 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 7:23am	Print Post
	WonderfulFoppyBint wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:43am: words tbh if i was president of the vault i would want rubbins as vp i find his neutrality and factuality 2nd only to my own and believe he would be able to maintain great vault policy in the event of my demise or resignation

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WonderfulFoppyBint Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Poooop Posts: 5986 Location: stockholm victim of hag master Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: Humor me: Any viable cleric builds currently? Reply #99 - Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 9:54am	Print Post
	eighnuss wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2016 at 7:23am: gerrymandering can I be secretary of strake?
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	OUR GOD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1l7N-WLa3Q Right of Self-determination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8bqQ-C1PSE volt_ wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2017 at 4:43pm: Be a container for your genes to control your behavior in order to reproduce
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