Linker wrote on Feb 25
th, 2022 at 6:52am:
I have no idea how you think melee can't beat 10k without haste
Shuri tops out at about 13 seconds on the kobold using just 10k + dark imbue only. Around 38k+ dps, or around 80k+ in a 30 second span of 10k + di twice and no other boosts. Most melees are not doing that without haste. Some do not do that with haste.
Melee eventually reaches a state where they would have to use a weapon without a filigree or raid dice and hope that it procs in as few seconds as possible to regenerate a haste boost. Basically putting itself on a 90+ second cooldown per haste charge. That 90 second cooldown on reinvigoration doesn't include the downtime of using a shit weapon for how ever many seconds.
Shuri uptime VS haste uptime :
1 min 2 hastes used
2min 2h used
3min 2h
4m 2h
5m 2h
6m 2h
7m 2h 4 minutes and 40 seconds of haste boost uptime
shuri has 3.5 minutes up
8m 2h
9m 2h
10 2h
10:30 1h = 7 minutes of haste boosts used for melee
11m end of 1st regenerated haste boost from reinvig
1 proc 90 seconds icd for haste regen. Plus add in the average time of using a weapon without filigree or raid dice which is not included.
12 :30 2nd haste regen
14 3rd haste regen 8 mins uptime
14m shuri 7 mins burst uptime
the next 14 minutes... shuri 14 mins of uptime. Haste boost 11 minutes uptime.
the next next 14 minutes? 21 mins vs 14. 28 vs 17 at the one hour mark. And that is if, and only IF you can force the reinvigoration proc to trigger every second that it gets swapped to. Which is impossible.
Shuri never reaches a point without main weapon + 10k and DI. Melee wins out when neither are using their main burst engine. The longer a raid goes without a shrine the more shuri catches up. Overall combined with its top tier innate burst, it does top tier damage. It will never replace a melee in a raid, but it will do better than most melees.
Top end time for fully bursting should see shuri at under 4 seconds. Or 128k+ dps for 3.9 seconds or less. Melee isn't doing that at all. Post nerf it will still remain as one of the best ranged builds and ranged is needed in some raids.
Linker wrote on Feb 25
th, 2022 at 6:52am:
Sym using chopping isn't a good comparison.
Linker wrote on Feb 25
th, 2022 at 6:52am:
That same guy has a bunch of r10 solos using an aasimar shuri for self heals that are very recent.
Linker wrote on Feb 25
th, 2022 at 6:52am:
That's not what you want to talk about though. The issue is even if I am being a cocky dipshit and you have me beat by 10%, I have CC and DC casting, my PRR/MRR is probably higher in heavy, and I can selfheal in reapers. The best your guy has to offer is the aesthetic of a nice number next to where it says AC, and maybe evasion.
This is all true. nerf casters