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Reply #50 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 1:04pm
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somenewnoob wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 11:32am:
Well at least they've admitted that it's the "warlock or die" era of DDO.


Prepare for (more) warlock nerfs after the sale ends and everyone owns them.
  
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Reply #51 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 1:08pm
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Asheras wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:30am:
That may be your definition, but it doesn't match the accepted definition.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whale

A whale is just someone who spends a lot of money on a game. 

The stuff about getting done with out lube or reach arounds is all your own personal acedote.  No judgements, though if that is how you roll.  To each his own.   

EDIT:  If you think spending $130 on a game means you are a whale then that's cute.  To be a gaming whale, you need to add a zero.  There are people who drop $500 on cosmetics alone.  Or thousands of dollars on mobile games.  You think Turbine isn't making a mint on that little Game of War knock off they have - Game of Thrones:Conquest?  There is a reason they went into mobile gaming.  Opening a new kingdom means probably 6 figures in income in the first week.

Lol @ $130 or $80 = whale.   


1/10.  Poor spin attempt ignoring context and using pedantry to avoid answering the question.

Since you like being pedantic, there's no specific mention of DDO in your link, yet "whale" has been a commonly accepted term in the context of DDO for a long time.  Additionally, nowhere in your definitions does it specify a particular threshold of spending before one can be considered a whale.

If we take a generic definition applicable to gaming and apply context related to DDO to it, I'm not sure how you can think someone who drops $130 on an adventure pack with about $25 worth of useful stuff is anything but a whale.  Anyone who buys either of the upgrade packs is essentially just paying a markup of several factors for cosmetic fluff, aka whale.

Sure, someone who drops $500 on cosmetics (citation needed) is a whale.  That just means they're a larger degree of whale than someone who pays $130 for an adventure pack with $25 worth of useful stuff in it.  Both are still whales.
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Reply #52 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 1:26pm
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Skoodge wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 4:52am:
Not telling isn't keeping a secret, it's just not telling Tongue  Thanks for the unneeded, slightly pedantic advice though. 

Yeah, I know it was unsolicited and a bit pedantic.

It's just a topic that is of interest to me as I've seen a lot of friends and family use your approach with their SO and have yet to see it work long-term without causing at least some minimal level of problems.  It seems like it creates potential for unnecessary friction that could be easily avoided.

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Reply #53 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 2:13pm
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Snu Snu wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 12:27pm:
and this 2 for 1 bag deal is kind of fishy. those bags are btc, if i would take that offer i'd like to spread around those bags .....


Apparently the devs don't know what "one for you, one for your alt" means.
  

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Reply #54 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 2:31pm
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Digimonk wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 1:26pm:
It's just a topic that is of interest to me as I've seen a lot of friends and family use your approach with their SO and have yet to see it work long-term without causing at least some minimal level of problems.  It seems like it creates potential for unnecessary friction that could be easily avoided.


You're listening with your fears instead of to the words.  It happens a lot these days, especially (admittedly) with such a short reference statement.

"What I've spent" vs "what I spend" is usually shocking on any topic.  For example, my wife drops an extra ten bucks a week for beauty cream - which she (imo) absolutely doesn't need.  She's young, she's beautiful, she already gets attention and compliments and her skin is fine.  I personally think it's pointless but it makes her happy and I know she does it for me, so I don't give her any shit about it or really a second thought.  It makes her happy, good for her. 

But that's "what she spends."

If I actually sat down and thought about it and looked at the yearly number - holy shit, that's 540 bucks that could have been spent on whiskey and whores instead for something we didn't even need, the yearly sum is more shocking.

I drop 10 to 20 bucks a month on games.  That's nothing for entertainment, especially considering I'm an expat and don't have (nor really have much interest in having) much of a social life (which would cost considerably more than my gaming budget).

If I told my wife I was going to drop 10 bucks while doing it once a month, she wouldn't even bat an eye.

But if she knew I'd dropped six to seven hundred bucks over the past 5 years on video games, she'd react negatively.  Hell, sometimes I feel like I've completely wasted money and feel slightly ashamed when I do the actual math.  That's a lot of money for something you don't even own - if you're looking at it from that perspective.

Really, take the time and calculate what you spend on damn near anything yearly and it can almost feel wasteful (I figured out once I spend like 250 dollars a year on orange juice alone.  It just sounds crazy when you look at the yearly total).
  

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Reply #55 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 3:00pm
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Nothing is on sale worth a shit.. and all they did was make shit kike the ottos and 20 hearts available for the same shitty price as always... wtf???
  
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Reply #56 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 4:00pm
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Digimonk wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 1:08pm:
1/10.  Poor spin attempt ignoring context and using pedantry to avoid answering the question.

Since you like being pedantic, there's no specific mention of DDO in your link, yet "whale" has been a commonly accepted term in the context of DDO for a long time.  Additionally, nowhere in your definitions does it specify a particular threshold of spending before one can be considered a whale.

If we take a generic definition applicable to gaming and apply context related to DDO to it, I'm not sure how you can think someone who drops $130 on an adventure pack with about $25 worth of useful stuff is anything but a whale.  Anyone who buys either of the upgrade packs is essentially just paying a markup of several factors for cosmetic fluff, aka whale.

Sure, someone who drops $500 on cosmetics (citation needed) is a whale.  That just means they're a larger degree of whale than someone who pays $130 for an adventure pack with $25 worth of useful stuff in it.  Both are still whales.

I like how someone else called you pedantic for your budgeting and relationship advice and now you use that word multiple times...I guess you liked it.  The rest is your typical posting.  it might get Frank into a frothing lather, but I could care less.  Bye.
  
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Reply #58 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:09pm
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Skrilla wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 3:00pm:
Nothing is on sale worth a shit.. and all they did was make shit kike the ottos and 20 hearts available for the same shitty price as always... wtf???

Wish bags were 50% off instead of BOGO.  Sigh.
  

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Reply #59 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:29pm
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noamineo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 11:15am:
So by that breakdown do you consider yourself a "whale"? I spend(or spent) about the same, and wasn't sure if I qualified for whale status.

I guess?  I don't care about the label.  Like other freemium services, there's a large segment that uses DDO for free because it's subsidized by a small userbase using premium features (think LinkedIn).
  
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Reply #60 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:32pm
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somenewnoob wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 12:42pm:
So there are several warnings on the mobos about not buying the bags (yet?) because they are btc.
Maybe they will change that.

They won't.  Today on the livestream, someone asked why bags are BtC instead of BtA.  Jerry's response was some bullshit about "BtA bags in a shared bank is a great way to lose your stuff".  IIRC, back when BtA bags were a thing early on in DDO, certain exploits were enabled that didn't work with BtC bags.  Apparently marketing never got the memo.
  
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Reply #61 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:54pm
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Carpone wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:32pm:
They won't.  Today on the livestream, someone asked why bags are BtC instead of BtA.  Jerry's response was some bullshit about "BtA bags in a shared bank is a great way to lose your stuff".  IIRC, back when BtA bags were a thing early on in DDO, certain exploits were enabled that didn't work with BtC bags.  Apparently marketing never got the memo.


The old BTA (green) bags allowed you to pass BTC crafting ingredients through the shared bank (without the bag becoming BTC). I know some people who still have theirs.
  
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Reply #62 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 6:47pm
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Carpone wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:32pm:
They won't.  Today on the livestream, someone asked why bags are BtC instead of BtA.  Jerry's response was some bullshit about "BtA bags in a shared bank is a great way to lose your stuff".  IIRC, back when BtA bags were a thing early on in DDO, certain exploits were enabled that didn't work with BtC bags.  Apparently marketing never got the memo.


so put your shit in the shared bank coz it's a little safer just got shot out the water by the same fuckers who said to do it .....  Cheesy
  
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Reply #63 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:34pm
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Carpone wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:32pm:
"BtA bags in a shared bank is a great way to lose your stuff".

Putting bags into shared banks will delete your items now?
  

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Reply #64 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:47pm
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NoGoodDoc wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:54pm:
The old BTA (green) bags allowed you to pass BTC crafting ingredients through the shared bank (without the bag becoming BTC). I know some people who still have theirs.


Or several, whatever.
  

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Is that list of the "sale" legit?  Are they that out of touch with the sales base? 

Never mind, redundant question is redundant.
  
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Rubbinns wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 7:34pm:
Putting bags into shared banks will delete your items now?

Lose, as in "can't find" or "lost track of," not "deleted."
  

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Reply #67 - Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:03pm
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Technomage wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 8:31pm:
Lose, as in "can't find" or "lost track of," not "deleted."


Or loose as in "get taken away from you" Wink
  

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noamineo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:03pm:
Or loose as in "get taken away from you" Wink


No, that is lose, as in you lost something because it was taken away from you, not loose. Wink
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noamineo wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:03pm:
Or loose as in "get taken away from you" Wink


The only time "loose" and "get taken away from you" go together is when we're discussing virginity.
  
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Asheras wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 9:30am:
That may be your definition, but it doesn't match the accepted definition.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whale

A whale is just someone who spends a lot of money on a game. 

The stuff about getting done with out lube or reach arounds is all your own personal acedote.  No judgements, though if that is how you roll.  To each his own.   

EDIT:  If you think spending $130 on a game means you are a whale then that's cute.  To be a gaming whale, you need to add a zero.  There are people who drop $500 on cosmetics alone.  Or thousands of dollars on mobile games.  You think Turbine isn't making a mint on that little Game of War knock off they have - Game of Thrones:Conquest?  There is a reason they went into mobile gaming.  Opening a new kingdom means probably 6 figures in income in the first week.

Lol @ $130 or $80 = whale.   



Frothing lather:

Digimook called me a whale for buying character slots.  lol.

And yeah I am a digital hoarder, but a character slot is cheaper by about 30% than 10 shared bank slots and comes with 3 20 slot backpack and 1 20 slot bank as compared with 10 shared bank, and can be increased if you care to run the favor quests to do so.  So cheaper by far if math isn't a foreign concept to you. 

As usual, Digimook doesn't really have the knowledge to back up the spew from his mouth hole.

But while $130/year doesn't equal whale, I have to wonder if the people who were foolish enough to spring for the "ultimate fan bundle" only drop that $130 in any given year.  I tend to doubt it, since that bundle was so lackluster that I saw many posts on the forums from people who bought it "just to keep the lights on."  Ahahahahaha!
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I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


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I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


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Asheras wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 4:00pm:
I like how someone else called you pedantic for your budgeting and relationship advice and now you use that word multiple times...I guess you liked it.  The rest is your typical posting.  it might get Frank into a frothing lather, but I could care less.  Bye.

I do like that word, but it has nothing to do with Skoodge's use of it.  I've used the word several times in the past on here long before this.

I notice you're still dodging the question though and you do seem to care since you immediately went all defensive mode on the whale thing.  At this point, I'll assume you have no legit way to disprove that you are a whale.  Given your financial bragging and your previous, well-documented cheerleading for SSG here and on the official forums would indicate, it's a pretty safe bet that you're a DDO whale.

It's funny to see you try to belittle and prove superiority over others by dick-waving about your financials then turning right around and belittling someone's vocabulary/education.  Real classy.
  
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Frank wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 11:20am:
more herpa derp

See what you did Asheras?  You brought up those painful memories for him again and got him wound up.

And you call other people trolls?  lol
  
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Digimonk wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 8:03pm:
I do like that word, but it has nothing to do with Skoodge's use of it.


Actually didactic was the word I was looking for, but pedantic worked well enough.  I seriously have not been getting enough sleep...
  

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Digimonk wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 8:04pm:
See what you did Asheras?  You brought up those painful memories for him again and got him wound up.

And you call other people trolls?  lol


Here's another word for your vocabulary lesson, Mookie:  Marionette.

You are mine.  Your brain is a small and rather dull toy, but I do like to play with it on occasion.  And you dance so well!  But since I hold the strings I guess I deserve the credit and not you.

Assherass is a shill, but at least he is an honest shill.  You pay into ssg while trying to pretend that you don't, and that's just dishonest and pathetic.  Like the rest of your life.
  

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Digimonk wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:39pm:
I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive.


Smart players know how to use buyback.

Digimonk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:58pm:
I will not chone.

I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect.


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