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Let me know if Ravenloft is worth it
Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:47pm
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Money's not a problem.

I don't believe I'll be back to grinding like the old days.  just want to know if the content is worth exploring, running a few times, etc . . .
  
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Bigjunk wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Money's not a problem.

I don't believe I'll be back to grinding like the old days.  just want to know if the content is worth exploring, running a few times, etc . . .


Considering Ravenloft content is the only way to get Sentient Jewels, yes.. its going to be worth it just for that alone.

Bear in mind, hvnt actually logged in yet to see if there are some portions free, like they did on MotU and Shadowfell.

~Edit~ alright, logged in before using my codes - Cannot access any of Raven without buying it, Ergo - F2P players are fucked on getting sentient jewels.. Typical SSG
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Bigjunk wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 2:47pm:
Money's not a problem.

I can fix that. PM me your ID & Credit Card info.
  

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Vendui wrote on Dec 6th, 2017 at 3:17pm:
~Edit~ alright, logged in before using my codes - Cannot access any of Raven without buying it, Ergo - F2P players are fucked on getting sentient jewels.. Typical SSG


Until it's all available in the DDOstore.  If they follow the way they did with Mordor in LotRO, it'll be the "next update" which I would expect near the end of March or early April around anniversary time.  Even VIPs got nothing from U37 except another race.  /shrug

Personally, I currently don't feel playing the game itself is worth anyones time unless they really enjoy the heroic TR grind.  SSG flat out fucked up with this expansion.  Guess VIPs don't mean anything to them any more.  /shrug
  
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Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2017 at 6:39pm
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The quests are very good

Its not an expansion though, so dont expect much more than a collection of good quests

In retrospect it wasnt worth paying what I paid for it, but would certainly be a good pick later on when its available for TP
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2017 at 6:51pm
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I think they got the creepy feeling right.  I have enjoyed the quests so far.  Likely the cheap version is enough if you are not into cosmetic stuff.
  

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I've really enjoyed the quests, and the explorer area is massive. The heroic loot - at least what I've pulled - is really good for level. I got the $40 pkg, and feel like I'll get my money's worth over the next few months/TRs.
  

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ShoeMaker wrote on Dec 13th, 2017 at 6:32pm:
I currently don't feel playing the game itself is worth anyones time unless they really enjoy the heroic TR grind. 

These quests are actually the best work ssg has ever put out. Amber Temple in particular is one of the better quests in the entire game. It isn't a daily because the xp isn't as high, but what it offers is a long dungeon crawl. One that feels like tabletop d&d, in a unique setting with distinct art and very little copy paste environment that ssg has been infamous for. Of course the loot in the pack is op as fuck. Even the free weapons they are giving away blow most weapons out of the water on a dps basis.
  

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Im not going to lie.. they do look really nice. And they had to have spent a lot of time making it..  some of the quests seem way too long but others are fairly short.. i guess it evens out a little.. the long ones will go faster in due time..

There is nice loot tho.. and a lot room to explore.. The pack is worth buying.. the $130 one wasnt good value but the $40 one isnt too poorly priced..

So if you want to play it now buy the $40 one.. or wait a few months and spend tp.. its up to you
  
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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 13th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
These quests are actually the best work ssg has ever put out.


That isn't saying much.
  
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SirValentine wrote on Dec 13th, 2017 at 9:59pm:
That isn't saying much.



These fuckers have been phoning it in since Shadowfail, but this pack as great.  They appear to be very good at adapting old pen and paper stuff with the exception of Temple part 2. 

Worth my $40.
  
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SirValentine wrote on Dec 13th, 2017 at 9:59pm:
That isn't saying much.


Especially since they just copied them from a book...  Roll Eyes
  

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Flav wrote on Dec 14th, 2017 at 12:48am:
Especially since they just copied them from a book...  Roll Eyes

I'll take it and be happy. It feels like d&d at least. And the last quests they made were hot garbage. doj raid managed to ruin a classic raid in tower of despair. fashion madness pack was some of the worst copy pasting I have ever seen. same with the legendary shroud flaggers. The 40 I spent on ravenloft was well worth it. im hoping they turned the corner now and continue adapting source material instead of that shit they were dropping.
  

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Rubbinns wrote on Dec 14th, 2017 at 2:50am:
I'll take it and be happy. It feels like d&d at least. And the last quests they made were hot garbage. doj raid managed to ruin a classic raid in tower of despair. fashion madness pack was some of the worst copy pasting I have ever seen. same with the legendary shroud flaggers. The 40 I spent on ravenloft was well worth it. im hoping they turned the corner now and continue adapting source material instead of that shit they were dropping.


Rubbins should buy me teh $40 pack, and Ill pay it back later.. ~not that I even have a character ready for it, until at least this weekend.. when I am getting it myself.. but fuck it!~
  
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Vendui wrote on Dec 14th, 2017 at 3:07am:
Rubbins should buy me teh $40 pack, and Ill pay it back later.. ~not that I even have a character ready for it, until at least this weekend.. when I am getting it myself.. but fuck it!~

lol you told me you bought it last week.
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 14th, 2017 at 7:25am
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Erofen wrote on Dec 14th, 2017 at 3:42am:
lol you told me you bought it last week.


Nah, getting it this weekend, stuff came up last week ^-^
  
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I'm usually hyper-critical of SSG but I'll honestly admit that this is probably one of the better content packs they've put out.

It's easily the best Castlevania game put out in the last 5 years so there's that.

Considering the quality of content we've gotten the past few years (Legendary Shroud, Slavers, fucking Newcomers, etc...) where it was obviously phoned in or full of clone stamp tool content this is...a nice departure.

I mean Death House is genuinely depressing and in a good way.  Castle Ravenloft is done pretty amazingly and is the first quest in ages I've had fun exploring.  The abbey, amber temple, etc...are all brilliant.  The story is coherent and you kinda almost care about it.  There are two quests which kinda suck but they're really quick and visually amazing otherwise so you can suffer through it.

The raid being buggy kinda sucks but it sounds like the guy they got working on it isn't going to abandon the project and move on to something else now completely ignoring all the glaring issues with it (*coughReaperModecough*)

But the atmosphere of the quests, the layouts, the mob placement are all on goddamn point and some of the gear is genuinely nice/worth getting.  This isn't ToEE where I looked at the loot list and went "Meh..."  This isn't slavers where I did the quests and the depressing level of boring bullshit made me not even bother going back because you don't really need Slavers gear to beat content.  This isn't LGS where if we weren't jumping over the...I mean if I didn't have 7 chest pullers to offset how monumentally boring it was.

Ravenloft is fun.

There is one pretty big problem though...

That's it.  It's just 12 quests and a raid.  It's a content pack, not an expansion.  Every other game ever expansions come with not only just some new dungeons but also systems changes, gameplay changes, quality of life updates, etc...etc...

There's no revamp to the DC spellcasting system or retuning for blaster casters making them not stupidly OP or stupidly useless.

There's no UI revamp making it not an absolute chore to navigate or find useful information.  I mean scroll bars and search windows on a handful of elements is a nice start I guess?

Where's the promised multi-cruncher for Cannith Crafting we've been waiting on since what...u30 or whenever the CC revamp was?  Where's the revamp for end game reaper making it more lucrative to stay at level 30?  Where's the changes to banking making inventory management not as much of a massive pain in the ass?

Why didn't we take this opportunity to fix the billions of recipes in the stone of change and get rid of the goddamn thing?  Why didn't we take this opportunity to take all the old shitty crafting systems in the game nobody uses anymore because the stuff is so significantly out of meta and just have bosses/quests drop completed items?

Why didn't we take this opportunity to switch all quests to the Challenge system so you can do your favorite quests at a reasonable stretch of levels?  Toss in mentoring or some other sort of de-leveling system so I can group with my friends the more than once every 3 blue goddamn moons when we all happen to be in level alignment.  Let me do Waterworks at level 27 with a 13 and a 5 in the party.

Where was the fucking systems changes?

Oh...oh we got sentient weapons.  Slavers for weapons.  I mean they go to all this work of adding a UI element for set bonuses and don't even retroactively apply it to old loot either.

So yeah.

Don't get me wrong.  I was genuinely worried after Newcomers that this was the kind of content we'd be getting going forward.  Mines of Teth made me afraid we'd get nothing but bloated HP bag mobs for less then 1/3rd the xp similar quests give.

Ravenloft I think is definitely worth the pickup.  In March when several of the bigger bugs are fixed and it's on the store for TP and nobody is running it anymore because the next content patch invalidates it all with +22 enhancement bonuses to str.

But no seriously.  After the direction we were headed in early 2017, this is a definite move in the right direction and unless you're selling shirts you have stolen a copyright on in order to not feed your kids because you don't have your fucking priorities right...where was I going with this?

Oh yeah.  Buy Ravenloft.  Get the 130 dollar bundle too.  Why the fuck not.  It's not like you're going to spend that money on something sensible instead.  Do you really need more webkins?
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Reply #18 - Dec 14th, 2017 at 10:31am
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The raid is you vs res timers.

I would prefer never to see a res timer again. They could have made amber temple the raid and not have needed the res timer crap

Im looking forward to whatever the 2nd raid is, hoping it doesnt shit all over the loot ive just farmed and praying it doesnt have the res timer mechanic
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Reply #19 - Dec 14th, 2017 at 11:15am
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Zehnpai wrote on Dec 14th, 2017 at 7:51am:
Oh yeah.  Buy Ravenloft.  Get the 130 dollar bundle too.  Why the fuck not.  It's not like you're going to spend that money on something sensible instead.  Do you really need more webkins?


Thats what I did, and I think it was genuinely worth it.

The bottle of mist was pretty cool, it appears to be uninterruptible. So if you're getting mobbed by trash and just want to nope out, all you need is enough HP to survive the count down.
  

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Ya ive been growing a little tired or the res timers.. especially in raids and in high reaper.. It would be nice if they took that out at some  point or scaled it down a good bit on time limits..

This isnt ravenloft but... something that really annoying is that if you get more than a few lvls in a day and somebody new joins your group, they cant get in unless everyone else thats been lvlimg relogs. Or you have to reform. But thats not easy to do if the quest has already been going on..

I used to hang with people who were nuch higher or lower than me just bsing and it wasnt a problem. But when people were able to let heroic toons in epic quests they fucked everything up so that all these errors happen now even when it shouldnt. It wasnt as big of a problem as the one they created by trying to "fix" it..

  
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Reply #21 - Dec 16th, 2017 at 12:18am
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goldgolem wrote on Dec 14th, 2017 at 10:31am:
Im looking forward to whatever the 2nd raid is


Why do you think we're going to see a second raid?
  

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OldCoaly wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 12:18am:
Why do you think we're going to see a second raid?


cause they planned one and designed it and even programmed it. then they tested it and all went to hell. there were a lot of tears and sympahy fucks but somewhere between next week and march we get another raid.
  

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Reply #23 - Dec 16th, 2017 at 1:25pm
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Interesting. You know it's a decent expansion pack when even most of the Vault is praising it. I might have to check this one out.
  
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Reply #24 - Dec 16th, 2017 at 8:44pm
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Yeah. 

Content wise, it's surprisingly decent.  The atmosphere is dark and dreary.  The missions aren't complete auto-attack kill 923423422 trash mobs snoozefests.  The raid is okay. 

The itemization is decent and the sentient gems and filigree system add some flexibility and customization options for various builds.  And perhaps most surprisingly of all, the drop rates for the filigree and pseudo named weapons seems relatively decent (for now).

As usual though, the one big thing they dropped the ball on is quality control, testing, etc.  Several of the good named items are bugged all to hell currently (quiver, cane/buckler, etc.).  The Strahd raid is buggy as shit.  Etc.

Overall though, it's decent.  Far better than their usual standards.
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