Kimberlite wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 6:36pm:


You're Canadian so we appreciate that you try to blend into our culture.

Oakianus wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 6:19pm:

you made me lol
I now might be fired for Vaulting at work again....

God, you people.

I leave you alone to do some quiet levelling and look what the hell happens?

JDollar wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 7:37pm:


It is because I love you like a Canadian cousin

JDollar wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 7:39pm:



Toga?

O.O

Arkat wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 4:58pm:


Ok, so kind of I get that you started a very brief conversation with stainer where his only reply was "ok" and you took that to mean that you could place your utmost confidence that he would comply with your request.  I mean, part of me thinks that part of your shock should be that you leaped to that conclusion in the first place.  You didn't really give him any alternative, and it's an unfair position to put someone in.  For example:

"If I tell you something, will you promise not to tell anyone?"
"Ok."
"I killed your sister and ate her."

Still, it seems kind of low for stainer to go tell Gawna without first telling you "dude, you're an idiot.  I think people should know you've been trolling with an alt account because you can't stand to admit you made a mistake."

And you're right, stainer did in fact tell Gawna about your conversation right after you asked him not to.  That's not really cool.

But then, over something as minor as an alt account, you're willing to start throwing accusations around that you have absolutely no evidence to prove.  And really it looks like you are trying to defame someone's character because the person exposed you as being misleading troll and the exposition was done in an underhanded manner.

I don't know Arkat.  I realize mistakes were made, but I'm having a hard time finding a leg for you to stand on.

Oakianus wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 8:44pm:



Oh, yeah, that could be.  Even less leg now.

Quote:

I'm so good at dramz.

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stainer wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 8:54pm:


Yeah, I went back and re-read the thread and I see that now.  My only defense is that I'm old and easily confused.  Sorry.   

So to summarize what I got from this thread, Arkat was making baseless accusations to besmirch stainer's character because he had been exposed as an underhanded troll.

As to the OP I am more concerned with multiple accounts on the vault than trading TP for ingame items

JDollar wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 9:05pm:

I didn't intend to post it yet, wanted to read further and see if that point had already been made before posting.  Then I accidentally hit "post."  hah.  Here it is:

gloopygloop wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

You just insulted half the Vault, lol.

Luckily, I have four accounts 

Oakianus wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 8:44pm:

Schmoe wrote on Jan 27^th, 2012 at 8:45pm:

You guys have good points and I considered this.

Let's just say all this is mostly accurate by saying 2 months after I, in confidence, confirmed to stainer the Scrotie account was my alt account, Gawna started to suspect the truth on her own.

The fact remains she did ask stainer if I was also Scrotie so she wasn't absolutely sure.

So let's just say she said something like, "Hey stainer, I suspect Scrotie McBoogerballs is Arkat. Is that right?" or, "Hey stainer, is Arkat also Scrotie McBoogerballs because I suspect he is."

The best response to the question (in either case) from stainer would have been, "Gawna, you should probably ask Arkat yourself."

Sure I probably wouldn't have come out and admitted it right away if she had sent a PM to my Arkat account. Instead I would probably have asked, "What makes you think that?" Assuming she explained the whole IP thing I probably would have admitted it.

The best thing about that one possibly course of action, stainer would have kept my confidence and I would have been happy to say I could trust him and call him "friend."

Instead, what we have now is very different.

So I guess, looking at it from a certain point of view one could argue about how much betrayal there actually was but from my point of view violating trust is HUGE. Maybe I'm a little too rigid regarding that but over the last 20 years or so, I have NEVER told anyone anyone else's secrets. I did let one slip when I was drunk in the Fall of 1991 at a tavern but it was accidental and I owned up to it as soon as I was asked about it. I immediately told the guy I was really really sorry and today, he is still one of my best friends.

So no, I don't take violations of trust lightly no matter how trivial they might seem to be.

Now, I'm through with defending myslf here in this thread. If you want to talk to me or yell at me or whatever, I'll be glad to talk to you in Vent, Teamspeak, DDO Voicechat, or whatever.

I've figured out cannot convey the sincereness or conviction of my position well enough with just the written word. Just come talk to me.

Thanks all.