Is there a better first life Haggle setup than Iconic PDK 1-Ftr / 16-Rog / 3-Sorc (that doesn't involve using an LR?)?

If so, what?

aDifferentHandle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:


With Max ranks in UMD and all level ups into CHA (starting CHA of 18), naked UMD will be 34.  GH scrolls shouldn't be a problem.

Why am I suddenly thinking of a ToD GH clicky necklace?

NOTdarth wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 7:38pm:


That would require me to run the quest that drops the necklace with this character.

If the opportunity to pike a completion of Bastion presents itself, I'll try to get one, but I don't intend to spend time chasing it.


The 12min duration of a GH scroll is enough time for me to freshen all the amenities on the guild boat, and the  1% savings for that exercise will pay for a stack of GH scrolls.


The intended purpose of this toon is to freshen amenities, buy the spendy scrolls, put extra hands in chests, and not much else.

GH pots out of Eveningstar. Pretty long duration if you've got the funds.

Or, permanent GH from those new armors out of shadowfail.

harharharhar wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 12:01pm:

They do, but avoiding an SLA that performs the same as when scrolled is a hard habit to break.

harharharhar wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 12:01pm:

Bards no longer get a class enhancement to haggle. 

Bards can get a maximum +6CHA  through class enhancements (+2 from each tree and +2 Spellsinger capstone) which translates into +3 haggle.

One level of bard grants access to Focusing Chant (+1 Haggle). 

The heroic bard songs do not buff Haggle, and Inspire Competence cannot applied to the singer. 

Inspire Excellence is an Epic feat, buffs Haggle by 1, and requires 15 levels of Bard (to unlock Inspire Heroics)

Many people think that Bard is the go-to for max haggle, but the only real value it brings is Haggle as a class skill and if you max CHA, you're also improving the non-haggle things that a bard does and so indirectly buffing Haggle.

harharharhar wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
aDifferentHandle wrote on Nov 13^th, 2013 at 7:14pm:


harharharhar wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 12:01pm:

PDK
+3 Racial Negotiator
+.5 Racial Enhancement +1CHA
+4 Action boost to Skills
+1.5 Action Surge +3CHA

Sorc
+6 Fire Savant Intensity OF EXTREME PREJUDICE (ok - it's just "Intensity")
+.5 class enhancement +1 to CHA

Rogue
+3 Rogue Bonus Feat selected Skill Mastery 3 times
+3 Thief Acrobat - Charming

Stalwart Defender
+3 Threatening Countenance


That adds up to +24.5 to haggle, or potato.  I have a level 20 on Sarlona, so I'm not sure. 

I might have missed something, because once I get to potato, I start to get sleepy.  That's why I asked for help.

this place is so much better for information than the turdbine servers

harharharhar wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 5:09pm:


can't be used in town.

cdr wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:


Some do.  The thread wasn't meant to offend anyone's sensibilities.

This exercise has been fun for me and has been as good a return on my time investment as many other things I've done in the game.  I hope anyone commenting feels similarly.


Munkenmo wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 5:21pm:


I agree that a hagglebard would contribute more to quests.

cdr wrote on Nov 14^th, 2013 at 5:15pm:

You used your free time to ask this?

if you want to skip/save the gh scroll or you dont have the neckless just go to amrath an sell your stuff there. you have gh over there the howl time