Realized I didn't have my seeker item on when I was doing TBF.

I just went to Cabal and tried out the hobgoblin test.

4997 DPS.

Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 4:28am:


Holy shit, are you still trying to look cool? Your second line of damage is a glancing blow.

Also, your Barbarian has Cleave and Great Cleave or you're the biggest fucktard around, which means you tested them, which means you saw you were full of shit and started looking for a cleave attack that at least appeared to doublestrike in some way.

When you're wrong, fucking admit that you're wrong. Don't try to brag instead.

SayWhatAgain wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 7:21am:


My tests were with two hander, non-centered. Doublestrike ranging from 60% when activating Zeal of the Righteousness to 10% when expiring. Actually did a few Zeal cycles, even though basic math skills told me this wasn't necessary. No doublestrike on Cleave, Great Cleave, or Strike Down.

Viktor Vaughn wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 12:30pm:


Nice vague response. Yes, I believe your THF barb has cleave feats. I can't think of one reason why it wouldn't. If it's a human, which it appears to be, that means 8 heroic feats, which means the standard combat feats + heavy armor + the cleaves are taken care of before epics.

Or did you take toughness instead? Do you build as well as you test?

How closely do you think your bullshit pics should be examined?

Whether you're using a THF Paladin or THF Barbarian, you should have cleave feats or KOTC granted cleaves. Stop nitpicking and distracting from the fact that you're full of shit. Cleaves don't doublestrike for your Paladin. Me not caring enough to examine what's in the fourth slot of your fourth fucking hot bar does not change that fact.

What straws are you going to grab at next to try to hide the fact that you're a complete fucking idiot?

So is the idea now that you are going to pretend like you were trolling all along to cover for your hubris and stupidity, or did you really not read any of Wipe or my posts in which we explain that we tested the cleaves already?

I had seen people ganging up on you in another thread and I thought, "That's fucked up. That's the sort of thing I don't like about the Vault." Now, however, I get it. You're too stupid to know that you're stupid, but the real crime is that you are actually arrogant on top of it.

FM wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 12:26pm:


O.k. Now I really am intrigued, I could not replicate my findings on my barb though he has gone through an LR (different twists as well).

Only had a couple minutes on last night so I'll test again today. Will try tree as well in form and out. I'll also revert twists and gear on my barb to see if I can replicate the conditions!

FM wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 7:12pm:

I proved strike down doublestrikes.
You can get mad all you want because you are wrong, that doesnt change facts.

Bigjunk wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:31am:


I don't have any hard numbers but, I was running my 14 Bard/4 Fighter/2 Rogue, 1 guildie a 20 Paladin and 1 guildie a 20 Barbarian and the 20 Barbarian was out kill counting us consistently over the span of a dozen quests.

We are all comparable in skill level, gear and past lives, etc. as well.

FM wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 12:43pm:

He is a fucking paladin you idiot.

DoRayEgon wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 1:00pm:


Oh FFS not the "He is outkilling us in quests" proof again.....

ITS ALL ABOYT THE LAST HIT RETARDS!

Yeah i can go crazy on that 200Hp mob you were beating down for one minute and spam cleaves glancing blows and take the kill from you while the champion ogre one shots the wizard,or beat the trash and leave the Boss standing there neg leveling people without deathward...

Its all about the playstyle you choose.

I outkilled a wizard that has 20 more int than me,every spell he casts is a guaranteed kill and plays that necro for years.

Was i better than him?Earned the MVP award? No
He was bored/more interested in securing other objectives (like killing stuff i wouldn`t be able to finger)? Yes

Thats the reason other games have DPS/Heal/Damage Taken Add-Ons or Valid DPS tests.

You would be amazed how much these cocky "i outkilled you lol omg noob no damage" lose their shit when your toon scores 3000DPS more in any scenario.

Bacardi wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 1:50pm:


Agreed, I'm not much of a fan at finger pointing to kill counts. But when everyone is going for the last hit to get the kill, it kinda evens out.

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The fuck are you even responding to? My post that you quoted and my other posts don't mention the proc being part of anything Paladin related. Gratz on not being able to read or test.

Strike Down can proc the fire damage on a glancing blow.

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Wait - so both you and the original fucktard can't test, don't know what you are talking about, loudly show off your ignorance, and then try to turn it around because I didn't carefully examine a screenshot that wasn't worth shit in the first place because it showed faulty testing?

By the way, I noticed you've been spamming the boards with threads that are obviously meant to endear you to the Vault community - calling out easy targets like Fran and Meli, mentioning donuts and using other vault type speak - how's that been working out for you? Everybody pretty much embracing you with open arms or does it turn out that people don't actually have a high enough idiot tolerance to do accept you and your obvious attempts?

And no, I'm no insider, but I'm not an obvious, pathetic, needy wannabe.

Rubbinns wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 4:34pm:


If the character is centered, Great Cleave can doublestrike. I tested it.

FM wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:


O.k. That explains the tree build double striking on cleaves.
Still didn't get to further test my barb but I hope I get to it soon.