Two questions:


1. Can someone break down sources of ranged power for me?  [EDIT:Nevermind

2. Is Wind Stance or Earth Stance better? (assume you have haste on.)  BTW, Wind stance doesn't give doubleSHOT does it?


Ok, one more:  Is Blitz/LD definitely better than Shiradi?

Meat-Head wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 4:28pm:


1. You got it.
2. Wind stance on a Shuriken thrower always. 19-20 +1 Crit does increase your physical damage 8-10% (depending on your crit multi and threat range), but 6 Dex (+4 for ultimate and -2 for Earth) increases ALL of your damage, IE SA, Physical and Proc by simply making your throw faster/more missiles.

Coefficients in order of total increase per unit to DPS go like this in a cascading order of impact:

1. Throw Speed
2. Missile Proc Rate (Dex, Doubleshot, 10K)
3. Physical Damage/SA (because they scale with RP)
4. Static Proc damage effects (touch of flames, etc).

Wind Stance does not give Doubleshot, but it does give 15% throw speed (Grandmaster) vs. 22% for Haste.

Lelouch wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 7:03pm:




My haste pots are a placebo?!

i leveled the human build to 8, then stoned, been shroud flagging, and am 1 quest from 20.

It does fairly well. I've been swapping between Shadow Star and an Elite version of the Morning Star. Shadowstar seems best overall barely.

I will say that people leveling Warlocks are facerolling more than I am. But, I've been kinda holding my own.

Meat-Head wrote on Jul 15^th, 2015 at 9:17pm:


Fixed

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Meat-Head wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 12:48am:


Cormyrian with Improved paralyzing, lightning strike and hemorrhaging.
Both lvl20 and lvl24. Lotsa duped mats to burn though.

Yeah the spelltouched effect with Para/Imp Para on a good L16/20 Shuriken is worth it if you have mats laying around. Works well 'til 22 and first tier of TF.

Before that, I know there are better options for DPS but I like the CC of the MSR so I often use lootgen or crafted with a red slot over named shuriken or GS.

unless something has changed Snowstar is better than Shadowstar by a good margin.

Snowstar: +4 Ench 1.5[1D4] 18-20x2 (NOT KEEN)
Shadowstar: +2 Ench 1.5[2d3] 19-20x2 (KEEN)

Base damage 4+1.5*2.5 = 7.75
Base damage 2+1.5*4 = 8

.25 higher base damage on Shadowstar, massively increased crit threat on Snowstar.

Oh right massive bug with keen stacking my bad

harharharhar wrote on Jul 18^th, 2015 at 11:36pm:


It makes the Sting damage go insane.

harharharhar wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 12:03am:


Your lack of actual testing is showing.

Sting reticks on every crit. So once fully stacked it deals an extra 20d4x2 (100 average) on 80% of your attacks if your build crits on a 5...plus it continues as a DoT if you stop attacking for some reason.

Good damage, yes?

5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 12:22am:


Every 3 seconds...right? Or you mean it does 100 damage on every crit at 20 stacks?

Even if it does do 80 damage a star (crit on a 5) you would have to be using Shadowstar, which means you would lose all of the Thunderforged on hit procs, which are 83 on their own (33 Touch of Flames, 14 Dragons Edge, 36 Mortal Fear, not to mention 5.88 for Meteoric Star), so you're down on proc damage, but obviously ahead on crit damage. Though with a TF you would be critting on a 13, not a 5, so you're getting 45% more crit damage with the shadowstar, albiet at a slightly lower base damage (TF +11, more [W]s).

I could see on a boss where this is would make Shadowstar shine so much (Or I guess any Keen Shuriken),but really it's only worth it with a keen shuriken, and on anthing you can 100% of the time bypass the fort of.

Against trash, I think a TF would still be a better choice because of Mortal Fear, but I haven't actually done the math

5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 19^th, 2015 at 1:04am:


No, because as described it's such incredible garbage I couldnt imagine anyone spending AP on it to train (basically 40d4 Poision every 3 seconds). Obviously working as you're describing it, it quite good, but only with a keen weapon and only so long as throwers crit range with Keen remain hopelessly broken.