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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Dec 4^th, 2015 at 3:35am	Print Post
	Figured I'd make a guide for people who hate re-gearing (like I do) every few levels between 20 and cap, so here is a set of gear that is "universally" useful.� All level 20. Can be changed for caster type gear This layout specific for melees Obviously slot other things you need/want Helm: Deadly helm of accuracy Neck: Epic Golden guile Trinket: Epic gem of many facets* Gloves: Epic gloves of the claw* Cloak: Epic envemonded cloak Belt: Epic spare hand* Goggles: Tharnes goggles* Armor: Black scale armour/white/blue Wrists: Bracers of the sun soul Boots: Epic rock boots Ring 1: Epic ring of the master artifice Ring 2: Epic ring of the stalker Weapon: So many options� alchems/esos/gs Will make another layout for caster types later
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #1 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 3:35am: Figured I'd make a guide for people who hate re-gearing (like I do) every few levels between 20 and cap, so here is a set of gear that is "universally" useful.� All level 20. Can be changed for caster type gear This layout specific for melees Obviously slot other things you need/want Helm: Deadly helm of accuracy Neck: Epic Golden guile Trinket: Epic gem of many facets* Gloves: Epic gloves of the claw* Cloak: Epic envemonded cloak Belt: Epic spare hand* Goggles: Tharnes goggles* Armor: Black scale armour/white/blue Wrists: Bracers of the sun soul Boots: Epic rock boots Ring 1: Epic ring of the master artifice Ring 2: Epic ring of the stalker Weapon: So many options� alchems/esos/gs Will make another layout for caster types later Not sure I agree with several choices. Unless you are a WF/Bladeforged, what is the point of the Master Artificer ring on a melee? I'd rather have a ToD ring there. Your helm is weak. Tharnes is only good for true seeing on anything that isn't a rogue. Get the Deadly/accuracy there and go with the Epic Helm of Frost for the Abashai set. Way better. Of course, the difference between a dex build and a strength build is considerable for gear. I see a lot of sneak attack, deception, and other rogue gear but no dex item or Int. Your dex, Int, and Charisma are going to be very low with this gear set you propose and your strength is going to be off by 6 from an optimal gear set for a strength build. Con is solid. Wisdom is acceptable for most non-monk melee builds. I'd rethink. This gear set is a non-starter for any rogue, ranger, monk, bard, fighter, pally, or barbarian build that I can think of. Especially since your gear set includes 5 BTC Seal/Shard/Scroll items that weren't easy to get when people actually ran that content. Most players would be better served to just use comms and get eveningstar trader items. It's quick and easy.


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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #2 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 4:50pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 12:43pm: Tharnes is only good for true seeing on anything that isn't a rogue. Unless you don't have agro, like when Deception procs.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #3 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 7:19pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 12:43pm: what is the point of the Master Artificer ring on a melee?� I'd rather have a ToD ring there.� Your helm is weak.� Tharnes is only good for true seeing on anything that isn't a rogue.� Of course, the difference between a dex build and a strength build is considerable for gear.� I see a lot of sneak attack, deception, and other rogue gear but no dex item or Int.� Your dex, Int, and Charisma are going to be very low with this gear set you propose and your strength is going to be off by 6 from an optimal gear set for a strength build. This gear set is a non-starter for any rogue, ranger, monk, bard, fighter, pally, or barbarian build that I can think of.� Since nobody runs ToD anymore, I'd say the Master artificer ring is not only easier to get, but also brings a green slot, spell points for cacoon, and a colorless for slotting stats.� Which brings me to the next part.� Slot all of the stats you want/need. (fort, cha, int, dex, false life) What are you talking about my strength being off by 6?� Between your gloves of the claw and epic gem of many facets, base damage will be +7 (assuming you are using 2wf)� Which is equivalent (for damage purposes but not to-hit) +14 strength And with tharnes if you got decent attack speed in combo with the golden guile it will add some handy dps. You can of course get the frenzied bezerker belt instead of spare hand. and the ring as well, but that'll take foreverrrr.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #4 - Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	Helm: PDK Helm Neck: Golden guile Trinket: Token of the Proven Gloves: PDK Gauntlets Cloak: Mithral Wolf Cloak/Bear Cloak Belt: Belt of the Sun Soul Goggles: Woodsman's lenses Armor: Black Dragon scale Wrists: Bracers of the sun soul Boots: Kundarak Boots Ring 1: Guardian's Ring (24 sheltering is unique at this level) Ring 2: Epic ring of the stalker Weapon: challenge/gs/old epic Swap in Flawless dragonscale + Helm, Orc Privateer boots and Iron Mitts at 25 if available. Swap in Orchard gear at 27.

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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #5 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:21am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:56pm: Helm: PDK Helm Neck: Golden guile Trinket: Token of the Proven Gloves: PDK Gauntlets Cloak: Mithral Wolf Cloak/Bear Cloak Belt: Belt of the Sun Soul Goggles: Woodsman's lenses Armor: Black Dragon scale Wrists: Bracers of the sun soul Boots: Kundarak Boots Ring 1: Guardian's Ring (24 sheltering is unique at this level) Ring 2: Epic ring of the stalker Weapon: challenge/gs/old epic Swap in Flawless dragonscale + Helm, Orc Privateer boots and Iron Mitts at 25 if available. Swap in Orchard gear at 27. froggy wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 3:35am: Figured I'd make a guide for people who hate re-gearing (like I do) every few levels between 20 and cap

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #6 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 9:41pm	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 5:21am: Two painless swaps for vastly superior gear that you've had just sitting there in your inventory since you ER'd anyway. Don't be a gimp.

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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #7 - Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:19pm	Print Post
	True. But this guide is only for level 20 gear, if you want to post about all the optimal gear through the epic levels then go on ahead. I dont like wasting time swapping gear and more gear for measly bonuses like +12 prr and mrr. Especially since the different % damage blocked is small and diminishing. (Especially if you got lots already standing at 20)

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #8 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 12:05am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Dec 5^th, 2015 at 11:19pm: True. But this guide is only for level 20 gear, if you want to post about all the optimal gear through the epic levels then go on ahead. I dont like wasting time swapping gear and more gear for measly bonuses like +12 prr and mrr.� Especially since the different % damage blocked is small and diminishing. (Especially if you got lots already standing at 20) Surely at some point after taking level 25 you will have 5 spare seconds waiting for a guy to pick up Raiyum's Phylactery that you can hit "i" and doubleclick 4 times. Same thing at 27. Subject says level 20 to cap BTW.

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Starkjade Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Rogue Scholar Posts: 7082 Location: Canadia Joined: Aug 27^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #9 - Dec 6^th, 2015 at 12:20am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 12:05am: Surely at some point after taking level 25 you will have 5 spare seconds waiting for a guy to pick up Raiyum's Phylactery that you can hit "i" and doubleclick 4 times. Yeah. I mean, I'm lazy, but when I order a pizza, I don't make the pizza delivery guy feed it to me after he brings it.

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PersonaNonGrata Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1063 Joined: May 3^rd, 2015	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #10 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:35am	Print Post
	For someone who wasn't around when the SSS system was, Five Foot's list is a lot more appealing, even if you elect not to change it at later levels. I like Five foot's suggestions. Even the gear he mentions to swap in is fairly easy to get too. Let's file those as "more practical" options if not optimal. Froggy - I understand your OP, and I'm glad it works for you, but I would suggest the audience for it is fairly small? How many people are around from that time of DDO, and even then, how many finished all those items? I spoke to some guildies and the best I could find was one guy who had maybe 3 of your items, and he wasn't sure he had kept any of them in his clean outs.


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Alex DeLarge Epic Poster Offline Get ready for some of the 'ol in-out, in-out Posts: 3467 Location: Foggy Albion Joined: May 11^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #11 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:29am	Print Post
	PersonaNonGrata wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 5:35am: For someone who wasn't around when the SSS system was, Five Foot's list is a lot more appealing, even if you elect not to change it at later levels.� I like Five foot's suggestions. Even the gear he mentions to swap in is fairly easy to get too. Let's file those as "more practical" options if not optimal.� Froggy - I understand your OP, and I'm glad it works for you, but I would suggest the audience for it is fairly small?� How many people are around from that time of DDO, and even then, how many finished all those items? I spoke to some guildies and the best I could find was one guy who had maybe 3 of your items, and he wasn't sure he had kept any of them in his clean outs. BtA/BtC ingredient trading + Dupapalooza + Conversion of epic items to essences at the same time period was AMAZEBALLS! A few of like minded buddies hooked me up then I spread the wealth for the whole guild. So many cool items, Red Dragon helms, Red dragon shards, eSoS mats, you name it. Big thumbs up for people who also converted, multiplied and spread heroic Abbot raid gear for the rest of us.


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PersonaNonGrata Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1063 Joined: May 3^rd, 2015	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #12 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 7:14am	Print Post
	Alex DeLarge wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 6:29am: BtA/BtC ingredient trading + Dupapalooza + Conversion of epic items to essences at the same time period was AMAZEBALLS! A few of like minded buddies hooked me up then I spread the wealth for the whole guild. So many cool items, Red Dragon helms, Red dragon shards, eSoS mats, you name it. Big thumbs up for people who also converted, multiplied and spread heroic Abbot raid gear for the rest of us.� Nice. Goddamn shame I missed that! Aren't most of those old epic items outclassed now? Some of the Wheloon stuff and the Eveningstar turn in gear is pretty good for most classes.


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #13 - Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	At 20 ? Most likely heroic raid crap and epic Marilith for old times sake. Idgaf until Citw weapons but it's almost always Avithoul + Dunrobar combo, Mitts, Optics. Black set. Golden Guile, rock boots ? What the fuck. I mean I made Chaosblade or Thornlord just for fun but ...


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	A few GS displacement clickies, that's all you need, faggot.

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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #15 - Dec 10^th, 2015 at 11:14pm	Print Post
	() wrote on Dec 8^th, 2015 at 8:57pm: A few GS displacement clickies, that's all you need, faggot. Yup make every piece of gear gs. and fist everything to death sounds good.

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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #17 - Dec 14^th, 2015 at 8:35am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Dec 10^th, 2015 at 11:14pm: Yup make every piece of gear gs.� and fist everything to death sounds good. Don't feed the tards.

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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #18 - Dec 17^th, 2015 at 4:15am	Print Post
	Wait until you see the new random loot on live. If they kept it like it was on lamaland a couple of good random items may be the best thing you can get at level 20-24.

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Doggydaddy Titan Demolisher Offline Pull my Finger...... Posts: 324 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #19 - Jan 6^th, 2016 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 4^th, 2015 at 10:56pm: Helm: PDK Helm Neck: Golden guile Trinket: Token of the Proven Gloves: PDK Gauntlets Cloak: Mithral Wolf Cloak/Bear Cloak Belt: Belt of the Sun Soul Goggles: Woodsman's lenses Armor: Black Dragon scale Wrists: Bracers of the sun soul Boots: Kundarak Boots Ring 1: Guardian's Ring (24 sheltering is NOT unique at this level) Ring 2: Epic ring of the stalker Weapon: challenge/gs/old epic Swap in Flawless dragonscale + Helm, Orc Privateer boots and Iron Mitts at 25 if available. Swap in Orchard gear at 27. Fixed that for you...


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ILoveExploits Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Exploits! Posts: 2157 Location: piking @ work Joined: Oct 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #20 - Jan 6^th, 2016 at 5:43pm	Print Post
	Just get a bunch of random shit.

	Dear players, The D&D rules you were familiar with were too simple to understand, so we're continuing our move away from them to needlessly confusing subsystems that will make your play experience less fun and invalidate old builds and loot. We hope you have fun working out what the fuck MRR, PRR, MP, SP, RP, CL, MCL and all the other bullshit we made up whilst drunk means. Love, People who don't know how to fix their own mistakes cleanly
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string table error, tableDID Stormreaver Piker Offline ah......fresh meat Posts: 743 Location: Boredville Joined: Dec 9^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #21 - Jan 8^th, 2016 at 3:47am	Print Post
	ILoveExploits wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 5:43pm: Just get a bunch of random shit. I found a level 23 clever (astute) helm of intimidate yesterday, something my completionist pale master wouldn't have touched with a stick befor the loot update. But it has +9 INT on it and that is better than any level 23 raid or quest item in my TR cache.
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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #22 - Jan 10^th, 2016 at 2:54pm	Print Post
	Doggydaddy wrote on Jan 6^th, 2016 at 4:27pm: Fixed that for you... Was true when I typed it.

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #23 - Sep 27^th, 2016 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Ever since the ship buffs got introduced to the game, equipment was pretty much pointless for TR'ing, weapons were all that mattered. Screaming of bleeding 0-4 Heavy fortification ring 1-12 Some white spell resistance cloak & whatever random loot I picked up paired with my hoarded weapons 4-greensteel. Greensteel weapons from level 8-20 greensteel equip from 12-20. Esos 20-cap (old red slots & devil assault augments) 3 piece abishai 20-cap (cloak/helm/bracers) Night Hags Heartstone 13-cap Gloves - PDK 20-cap red armor 20-25 (black 25+) Goggles GS blurry item with cha skills & spell points to cap Necklace clickies/ epic torc Challenge belt 20-cap stalker ring 20-cap epic ring of the mire 20-cap Ravager set would replace challenge belt and mire ring for characters that had it. This advice was bought to you straight from 2012.
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eighnuss Epic Poster Offline ด้้้้้ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ ͩͩͩͩͩͩ Posts: 3468 Location: ด้้้้้็็็็็้้้้้็็็็็ ͩͩͩͩͩͩͩ Joined: Jan 30^th, 2013	Re: Gear setup guide from lvl 20 to cap Reply #24 - Sep 27^th, 2016 at 10:53am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Sep 27^th, 2016 at 9:44am: Ever since the ship buffs got introduced to the game, equipment was pretty much pointless for TR'ing, weapons were all that mattered. Screaming of bleeding 0-4 Heavy fortification ring 1-12 Some white spell resistance cloak & whatever random loot I picked up paired with my hoarded weapons 4-greensteel. Greensteel weapons from level 8-20 greensteel equip from 12-20. Esos 20-cap (old red slots & devil assault augments) 3 piece abishai 20-cap (cloak/helm/bracers) Night Hags Heartstone 13-cap Gloves - PDK 20-cap red armor 20-25 (black 25+) Goggles GS blurry item with cha skills & spell points to cap Necklace clickies/ epic torc Challenge belt 20-cap stalker ring 20-cap epic ring of the mire 20-cap Ravager set would replace challenge belt and mire ring for characters that had it. This advice was bought to you straight from 2012. ive never disagreed with you before but this is objectively wrong. you can do the same "fuck gear attitude" but with far better items that are far easier to acquire. i typically change gear once at 14 and then again at 28. todays random gen is better than pretty much everything you suggest and the cannith shit today is great and again easy as fuck as long as you didnt start your ddo career tomorrow. Your suggestions are only good for someone who acquired the best gear available 5 years ago and then quit the game. more than half the items you list are only useful in a vendors "sell" tab. aside from the esos and the green steel, those items all under perform compared to the shit youll loot while wearing them. the gear set you suggest is not a "fuck gear" gearset, but a "i intentionally gimped myself" gearset this reply was brought to you by 2016

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