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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #50 - Jun 18^th, 2016 at 8:27am	Print Post
	TheFifthSock wrote on Jun 18^th, 2016 at 5:02am: Flipping burgers at McDonald's down in Puerto Rico doesn't really indicate that you know what you are talking about when discussing database performance issues. Common sense does.
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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #51 - Jun 18^th, 2016 at 1:42pm	Print Post
	OnePercenter wrote on Jun 17^th, 2016 at 8:36pm: And location. My experience also. Place matters.


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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #52 - Jun 20^th, 2016 at 8:32am	Print Post
	Jerry doesn't understand words. Idiot said what? Quote: Indeed, this is getting it to work like it should have, but it's been in its current state for so long that we know folks will consider this to be a change. No one is 'considering' this to be a change.� It is a change regardless of whether you slack-wits finally decided that you needed to fix a bug, or if you finally realized that you actually sell storage space and letting people use mail for storage had an impact on those sales. Different today than it was yesterday = changed. So far no patch notice, but it's early and they haven't finished licking their dognuts yet.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #53 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:30am	Print Post
	Toke wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 3:47pm: It does say you won't lose anything, just can't use the AH until you get to less than 50. You won't lose anything, yet. Given their normal "Hurry up and code regardless of bugs and who cares about the customer's" approach, expect the mail deletion patch to follow rapidly.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Who Cares Not this guy ^^^ Offline You sir, are a dickbag. Posts: 1951 Joined: Dec 5^th, 2014	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #54 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 2:59am	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 12:30am: who cares about the customer's Hey I care about my customers! Well at least their money.

	Fuck Off, That is all Strakeln wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 9:17pm: WC can do whatever he wants. [] wrote on Feb 6^th, 2017 at 11:26pm: Public Service Announcement: your servers are not dead; if you can't find groups, it means you suck and/or nobody likes you.
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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #55 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 11:28am	Print Post
	Extreme Makeover: DDO Inventory Edition


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #56 - Jun 23^rd, 2016 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	"At this time we are not deleting mail." Soon!


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longbolts Dirty Sock Offline I Love Socks! Posts: 140 Joined: Oct 31^st, 2015	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #57 - Jul 5^th, 2016 at 1:36pm	Print Post



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Soulless187 Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 59 Joined: Oct 5^th, 2014	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #58 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 5:41am	Print Post
	[] wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 3:45pm: "We�ve discovered a significant performance issue caused by what ever bullshit "cause" we hit on the dart board, we have no fucking clue how this game works because we fired anyone who had a bloody clue so now it all hope and a prayer....aka you are all fucked nothing to see here just keep giving us your money that is all.....�." Which is complete bullshit because there's literally NOTHING about what ever bullshit excuse we make that affects performance: no sound, animation, calculations, rendering, etc; NOTHING!� This is total bullshit of the highest order, and they're not even trying to hide it. FTFY


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Meursault Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Freedom of Speech Posts: 2410 Location: Hartford, CT; USA Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #59 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 8:48am	Print Post
	Soulless187 wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 5:41am: [] wrote on Jun 16^th, 2016 at 3:45pm: "We�ve discovered a significant performance issue caused by the in-game mail system when inboxes get too large." Which is complete bullshit because there's literally NOTHING about mail that affects performance: no sound, animation, calculations, rendering, etc; NOTHING! This is total bullshit of the highest order, and they're not even trying to hide it. � FTFY OMG, did KNN make a relevant and reasonable contribution to an ongoing discussion?! I have to turn off my filter and go check the original. What's next, Sev admitting somebody else had a good idea? It sure would be nice not to have to keep updating scripts on all of the half dozen computers I use through the course of a week

	Turdbin, keep changing the DDO rules, because McDonalds sold over 200 billion hamburgers by changing the recipe for their Special Sauce every couple of months to keep interest up.
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #60 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:17am	Print Post
	Meursault wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 8:48am: OMG, did KNN make a relevant and reasonable contribution to an ongoing discussion?! I have to turn off my filter and go check the original. You don't need to turn off your filter. His posts lead to only one place. Don't be trolled.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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WeHaveLived Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 945 Joined: Apr 24^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #61 - Jul 9^th, 2016 at 3:43pm	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:17am: Don't feed the troll. As much as he likes to declare it, accompanied by declarations that he is not, in fact, gay, neither of those statements are true.


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #62 - Jul 10^th, 2016 at 3:37am	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Jul 9^th, 2016 at 9:17am: You don't need to turn off your filter.� His posts lead to only one place.� Don't be trolled. It's too late, Coaly; it was always too late.


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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #63 - Jul 11^th, 2016 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	[] wrote on Jul 6^th, 2016 at 4:40pm: I LOVE my new avatar and title! Also, I suck grubby little packrat cocks!! Additionally, I'm Gay & an R-Tard. Duh.

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RemRemi Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #64 - Jul 13^th, 2016 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	[] wrote on Jul 10^th, 2016 at 3:37am: It's too late, Coaly; it was always too late. I can just picture the trouble P4P went to just to be able to make one post so he didn't look bad! No doubt Skimming wifi at the Aids clinic between handys!.


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karavek Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Jul 15^th, 2016	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #65 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	Kind of surprised by the lack of rage about this on the official forum. I'm a sad panda when even this fails to start a thread of QQ over there. Maybe the pop is so dead already no one left to care?


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platfarmchink Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 866 Joined: Feb 28^th, 2016	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #66 - Jul 16^th, 2016 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	karavek wrote on Jul 16^th, 2016 at 1:35pm: Kind of surprised by the lack of rage about this on the official forum. I'm a sad panda when even this fails to start a thread of QQ over there. Maybe the pop is so dead already no one left to care? Well it is the weekend meaning no moderation on the shithole, so feel free to post all your infraction worthy trash.


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ThereIsNoSpoon Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 69 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2014	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #67 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 3:54pm	Print Post
	https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/477229-Lag-Reduction-and-Mailbox-Limit...! Quote: As you may know, we recently implemented a system in DDO that limits your mailbox inbox to 50 mails. This was done to start addressing an issue where exceptionally-large inboxes were causing lag due to character data bloat. When we implemented this system, we asked everyone to voluntarily reduce their inboxes, and the system itself began preventing people from sending mail or posting things in the Auction Houses if they had more than 50 mails. We appreciate everyone's efforts to address this issue. Remember that we won't see a lag reduction until players have smaller mailbox inboxes, so it's been up to you to help improve things by reducing your inbox. We're now at the stage when we need to take the next step. We have a command that allows us to prune inboxes down to fifty mails, and we will soon be running that command starting with the characters that have the largest inboxes (we have a couple that are literally in the thousands...) Consider this your LAST CALL. Please get your inbox down to 50 mails if you are above this limit and are concerned about losing anything in your inbox. As of Wednesday, July 20th here's the player count of folks with 50+ mails in their inbox: Argonnessen: 273 Cannith: 245 Ghallanda: 311 Orien: 216 Khyber: 219 Sarlona: 300 Thelanis: 307 Wayfinder: 45 Total:� � 1916 Some of these may be folks who are no longer playing the game, or who haven't logged in in a very long time, but we know some of these numbers include active players, so we're putting out this final call to voluntarily reduce your inbox size if you have more than 50 mails prior to running a command that will automatically prune things. Thank you!
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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #68 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 4:27pm	Print Post
	Quote: Some of these may be folks who are no longer playing the game, or who haven't logged in in a very long time, but we know some of these numbers include active players, so we're putting out this final call to voluntarily reduce your inbox size if you have more than 50 mails prior to running a command that will automatically prune things. This makes no sense.� They have already implemented the restoration of the timer expiration.� I've left PMs from other players sit in my mailbox and they have vanished when they went a day after showing 1 day left.� So how could there be mailboxes full of things owned by players who "are no longer playing the game, or who haven't logged in in a very long time?"� One day after they fixed the bug which halted the timer at 1 day all the inboxes of inactive players should have self-pruned.� Active players could continue to mail crap back and forth to keep high inbox numbers, for whatever reasons including just not having anyplace else to put the stuff.� But not inactive players.� So why would they even say that inactive accounts could be a part of the problem any longer?
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	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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Digimonk Puppy Farmer Offline Posts: 1573 Joined: Apr 7^th, 2015	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #69 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	Bets on whether lag is noticeably less after the purge? I'm going with "made no difference."


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Turd_Ferguson Waterworks Kobold Offline It's a funny name. Posts: 174 Joined: Aug 18^th, 2014	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #70 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 5:11pm	Print Post
	Those fuckwits at DDO are a pack of fucking cowards that are hiding behind the "lag" excuse for cleaning up their shitty coding rather then telling people the actual fucking truth. They want people to spend money on inventory space. I don't even blame them for it, it's fucking business. Just grow a set of fucking balls and tell your customers the truth you spineless shit stains. If I didn't already fucking despise them this chicken shit behavior would have done it.� � Edit - Pardon my French.
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karavek Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Jul 15^th, 2016	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #71 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 5:59pm	Print Post
	Turd_Ferguson wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 5:11pm: Those fuckwits at DDO are a pack of fucking cowards that are hiding behind the "lag" excuse for cleaning up their shitty coding rather then telling people the actual fucking truth. They want people to spend money on inventory space. I don't even blame them for it, it's fucking business. Just grow a set of fucking balls and tell your customers the truth you spineless shit stains. If I didn't already fucking despise them this chicken shit behavior would have done it.� � Edit - Pardon my French. Especially since across most MMO communities storage space is an acceptable thing to micro pay for. Its pretty much the only non cosmetic sold over on path of exile for example least when I played it last. Had they been leveraging of properly the whole time many of the more controversial items sold may have never been.


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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #72 - Jul 21^st, 2016 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 4:27pm: This makes no sense.� They have already implemented the restoration of the timer expiration.� I've left PMs from other players sit in my mailbox and they have vanished when they went a day after showing 1 day left. Expired auction items still linger.

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5 Foot Step Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline I Hate Idiots! Posts: 11119 Location: USA Joined: Mar 8^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #73 - Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	Frank wrote on Jul 21^st, 2016 at 4:27pm: I've left PMs from other players sit in my mailbox and they have vanished when they went a day after showing 1 day left.� Did they have an item attached to them?

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Frank Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1429 Joined: Jan 14^th, 2016	Re: Mailbox Nerf Reply #74 - Jul 23^rd, 2016 at 3:36am	Print Post
	5 Foot Step wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2016 at 5:53pm: Did they have an item attached to them? Nope. But I was under the impression that the whole point of the mailbox 'fix' (better called 'return to working order after unintentionally broken' I guess) was to reinstate the timer actually completing the countdown and deleting mail when it hit 0 days. Attachment or not.

	No, let me be Frank. Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 12:39pm: I've had multiple RoSS rot just from doing the explorer points in Sands across multiple lives since it is exclusive. Smart players know how to use buyback. Digimonk wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2016 at 1:58pm: I will not chone. I did what I did intentionally and while my primary purpose was not to annoy the other Vaulties, I acknowledge that it was a side effect. Smart people don't elicit "side effects."� They understand in advance the consequences of their actions.
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