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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:11pm	Print Post
	Taking a break from watching the implosion of the loser formerly known as KNN.� Varg talks here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/467152-Level-30-and-your-Epic-TRs/page... Quote: We'll have more to discuss on this in coming weeks. Some level 30 topics are currently being discussed by Player's Council (though we haven't got everything out to them yet!) Quote: Originally Posted by GeoffWatson� View Post If the original plan of 3 million extra XP needed There is no "original plan" of 3 million extra XP. We don't expect level 30 to require 10 million total Epic XP. Quote: Originally Posted by Shoemaker� View Post Am I the only one noticing Severlin saying that true reincarnation (as opposed to epic reincarnation) is being bumped up to level 30? Was this a typo Sev or is it really TR going from 20 to 30? Heroic True Reincarnation won't be affected. Iconic True Reincarnation and Epic Reincarnation would be affected. The discount since Update 20, being temporarily reach only the lower level cap of 28, is going up to level 30 as originally planned1. Since Update 20, there's been quite a lot more epic quests added to the game, making getting to 28 (and beyond) easier to reach than ever before. It's probably beyond time to raise the cap to 30 as previously planned (but we've had many things we wanted to do first!) Some may call this "spin", but that's how it was originally and always planned. Calling this a punishment reasonably reflects current feelings and is certainly fine feedback - and comments about it being harder to know this from just being in game is good feedback as well, though we tried to be careful to say "level cap" and not "level 28" in the in-game text, as far as I know. Reaching only level 28 was always intended as pre-emptive easing of the Epic Reincarnation loop until we put in more quests, even beyond level 28 (which has happened since Update 20). I like his preemptive addressing of the spin.� Does that mean he is spinning the spin?� I think he just watched Inception.� Regardless, I'd like to see what the number is for the new cap. It's not 6.6 mill. It's not 10 mill. So what the fuck is it?


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #1 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	STFU & get back on my nuts, bitch!


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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #2 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:18pm	Print Post
	Whew! found you over here buddy! you are so busy posting everywhere all the time, it's almost a distraction , almost! luckily I'm here to help you not miss the important stuff while you are so busy! Like that thread you keep missing! all those soft punks are trying to say you are avoiding it! as if! See the problem is that you have been posting everywhere but here: http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1446162340/49#49 So you're really brave and great buddy so you should sack up and show everyone what you're made of!!!� Go KNN!! (hey man it's another $75 for the weekend alright, and I will need to see that in the account by tonight)


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #3 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:23pm	Print Post
	[] wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:12pm: STFU & get back on my nuts, bitch! I think your buddy Grand is looking for you. There's a thread that might be worth checking out. Anyways. I think that there is enough grind in Epic levels as is. I'd like to see something like this: 21: 700k 22: 1.4m 23: 2.1m 24: 2.8m 25: 3.5m 26: 4.2m 27: 4.9m 28: 5.6m 29: 6.3m 30: 7.0m A little extra, but more a redistribution. I doubt that will happen. But any level where you need 1 million or more XP to advance a level is too much. Even with epic XP pay outs.


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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #4 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:41pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:23pm: I think your buddy Grand is looking for you.� I know he is. I got him running in small circles with his dick tucked between his little legs!


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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #5 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:46pm	Print Post
	(man runs up breathing very hard) Huff, huff, huff! Whew! I caught up with you, hey why did you run away from me back there? I thought we are buddys for at least another 11 hours? Didn't you see me waving this at you?


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Toke Stormreaver Piker Offline ... or maybe I was just smoking something. Posts: 744 Joined: Jan 7^th, 2014	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #6 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:52pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:23pm: A little extra, but more a redistribution.� I doubt that will happen.� But any level where you need 1 million or more XP to advance a level is too much.� Even with epic XP pay outs. Something linear like that is undoubtedly not going to happen. Would be nice to flatten it out since you get the biggest bang just for getting to lvl 20 and using your maxed out EDs. If they had made it where you couldn't use the different tiers of the EDs all at once, more xp per level would feel ok due to the incremental power on the way up. They didn't.

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #7 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:06pm	Print Post
	Toke wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:52pm: more xp per level would feel ok no. just no

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #8 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:12pm	Print Post
	Grand, you're pulling a Yardarm ?

	Yes my avatar is an Hermine eating a Greenland Lemming for brunch.
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #9 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:20pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:12pm: Grand, you're pulling a Yardarm ? >implying they're not the same guy: gay ass, redneck Remi.


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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #10 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	[] wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2015 at 8:41pm: Hag Master Hey i'm silvertoke69 on the hoppers , i signed up on the vault this week, this is my 2 attempt at trying to establish myself. so far i'm trying to use some shock-tactics and funny fake racist shit to carve out a little spot and a rep. but 4 the past 2 days the bitch yardarm has been fucking with every post I make, repsting my quotes with fucking numbers and shity little comments. i seen him do it before, it's fucking annoying as fuck and could start to make me look weakass, some guys he's done it to b4 warned me that he gets off on it, that he's gonna get worse the long it goes. Thats why i need a favor from you. i know you're not very vault active anymore but i heard thru the hopper grapvine that you still have a lot pull and sometimes trade favors for help and that yardarms guild still owes you big. Can we maybe make a deal where you get yardrm off my ass and even 2 help me a little bit to establish myself on the vault? if you could do that i would hook you up dawg big time, whatever you need, pvts, in-game shit, tp codes or ill do straight cash by paypal whatever it takes to get it done. thanks for your considertion http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1446162340/49#49 ^ This is where you need to be, KNN, everyone wants to talk to you there.

	- Zorro
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[] Madame President Offline Posts: 10532 Joined: Oct 16^th, 2015	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #11 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:31pm	Print Post
	you're so pathertic: eat copious amounts of African-American penis, homo.


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Mr Reilly Stormreaver Piker Offline They're all gonna laugh at me. Posts: 673 Joined: Sep 22^nd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #12 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	As for the XP, I was expecting 10M. It's gotta be more than 6.6 and I'd expect a nice flat number so maybe 8 or 9. Then again they may do some weird number like 6.6 and make it 9.6 or something.

	- Zorro
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kum-gulp VoD Slasher Offline I Love Tired Vault Memes! Posts: 1812 Joined: Jul 16^th, 2010	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #13 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 4:31pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:23pm: I think your buddy Grand is looking for you.� There's a thread that might be worth checking out.� Anyways.� I think that there is enough grind in Epic levels as is.� I'd like to see something like this: 21: 700k 22: 1.4m 23: 2.1m 24: 2.8m 25: 3.5m 26: 4.2m 27: 4.9m 28: 5.6m 29: 6.3m 30: 7.0m A little extra, but more a redistribution.� I doubt that will happen.� But any level where you need 1 million or more XP to advance a level is too much.� Even with epic XP pay outs. Yeah, 27-28 already drag far too much for me, even with pots running. Without must be a nightmare. They need to redistribute like you've suggested, or similar, and not add too much. --- Plenty of epic content, hmmm. How about plenty of good epic content?


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Yobai Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4126 Joined: Jul 26^th, 2012	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #14 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	this thread is great. despite the plslukatmeee bird chirping its head off the OT topic continues. fuck the 28-30. seriously what is the point of level 30?

	Revaulting wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 8:16pm: Have you tried a lower difficulty, such as the official forums?
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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #15 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 5:25pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 2:11pm: Taking a break from watching the implosion of the loser formerly known as KNN.� Varg talks here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/467152-Level-30-and-your-Epic-TRs/page... There is no "original plan" of 3 million extra XP. We don't expect level 30 to require 10 million total Epic XP. Heroic True Reincarnation won't be affected. Iconic True Reincarnation and Epic Reincarnation would be affected. The discount since Update 20, being temporarily reach only the lower level cap of 28, is going up to level 30 as originally planned1. Since Update 20, there's been quite a lot more epic quests added to the game, making getting to 28 (and beyond) easier to reach than ever before. It's probably beyond time to raise the cap to 30 as previously planned (but we've had many things we wanted to do first!) Some may call this "spin", but that's how it was originally and always planned. Calling this a punishment reasonably reflects current feelings and is certainly fine feedback - and comments about it being harder to know this from just being in game is good feedback as well, though we tried to be careful to say "level cap" and not "level 28" in the in-game text, as far as I know. Reaching only level 28 was always intended as pre-emptive easing of the Epic Reincarnation loop until we put in more quests, even beyond level 28 (which has happened since Update 20). I like his preemptive addressing of the spin.� Does that mean he is spinning the spin?� I think he just watched Inception.� Regardless, I'd like to see what the number is for the new cap.� It's not 6.6 mill.� It's not 10 mill.� So what the fuck is it?� [/quote] OMG. All that twisty "hah gotcha" moments remind me of the very guy we are trying to ditch now. But...Is it possible...that Varg is KNN?

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #16 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	Btw i suspect its 9 million.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Technomage Epic Poster Offline And so it begins... Posts: 4444 Location: Tucson, AZ Joined: Aug 27^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #17 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 4:44pm: seriously what is the point of level 30? Another feat, mostly.

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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #18 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 5:28pm	Print Post
	[] wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:31pm: so far i'm trying to use some shock-tactics and funny fake racist shit to carve out a little spot and a rep The only funny thing in you is...well... you.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Grand Ex Member I Love Drama!	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #19 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 3:12pm: Grand, you're pulling a Yardarm ? Nope, I was running out of time in RL and wanted to be sure he saw my "concern" suitably displayed, after all he paid for it >snicker >snicker Must say it was pretty fun watching it bug KNN, I can kinda see why Yard is able to keep it up for so long. But alas, it's not really my style and I had to start changing the post a bit each time.


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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #20 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 4:44pm: seriously what is the point of level 30? Two more skill points for most Swim and Spot.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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noamineo Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline All men fear time, but time fears the pyramids Posts: 9183 Location: Titan Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2014	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #21 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 6:32pm	Print Post
	Yobai wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 4:44pm: seriously what is the point of level 30? To make all the currently useless ML 28 crap valuable for a few levels? Lol I literally walked from the Fateshifter - to the bank - to the reincarnation grove, spending all of maybe an hour at lvl 28 this most recent life. Hey, how about some more storage?

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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #22 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Quote: The discount since Update 20, being temporarily reach only the lower level cap of 28, is going up to level 30 as originally planned lol. I'd accept "We're pretending, retroactively, it's a discount", or "I forget which of us fuckwits grunted it out in the brainstorming circle jerk, but now I'm forced to call it a discount". But "as originally planned"? Fuck no. Turbine uses that word, "plan" on occasion, but it's always awkward, like a dad trying to be cool and throwing some of his kid's slang randomly into his sentences. Turbine so foresight. Much plan.

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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #23 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 10:33pm	Print Post
	Turbine did originally promise that the level cap increase would be an increase in XP for ETRs. But they also promised that ITRs would be able to choose any class at level 1.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: Varg Talks about Level 30 cap and XP needed Reply #24 - Oct 30^th, 2015 at 10:36pm	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Oct 30^th, 2015 at 10:33pm: But they also promised that ITRs would be able to choose any class at level 1. noo. that wouldnt facilitate the sale of hearts, would it?

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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