I remember farming these items for ages, ransack after ransack, that I've given up. But then again, the same thing when farming for Bloodstones and Dusk Heart. Now the question is, were they worth it? At the time, Dusk heart and blood stones were good but since MoTU i found better ones!

Eross is dope..

Ross.. not so much

Digimonk wrote on Dec 9^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:


Yes, child, yes.  We hear you.  Now go fool around with [], the adults are talking here.

Digimonk wrote on Dec 8^th, 2016 at 3:57pm:

Had some time to kill while updating and rebooting servers at work today.

In-game testing indicates that Swift Defense is typed as Action Boost so it does not stack with Bard's T5 Expeditious Chant. 
Bard's Swashbuckler enhancement, Fast Movement is typed as a Music bonus.

That means that a 10 bard, 4 rogue, 1 barb would be 4% faster, assuming the runspeed from Acrobat stacks.

As an FYI, with the runspeed on this build it also takes less than 2.5 minutes to run to the namer spawn, kill it if it's up and DD out. 

Vaultaccount wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 6:11pm:

Not much.
I bought a Golem Heart once for something like 45 shards.
When I fuck up and die I have bought the 35 shard rez a couple times rather than bother with running back.  Depends on the quest and how much of a run it is.
I've bought dreaming dark potential disks rather than run quests I don't find to be a lot of fun over and over.

I think that's it.  I have a steady trickle coming in because I'll post decent random items for 3/4BO and if they don't sell across 2 weekends I'll melt them.  But some items are almost guaranteed to sell.  I've never bought any from the store and I'm sitting on over 400 right now.  I need to remember about the reroll option, because I've never done that and there are some quests I'd rather spend shards on then ransack.

Asheras wrote on Dec 12^th, 2016 at 9:14am:


Didn't cordo tell you? There is no such thing as a "high initial drop rate". Drop rates are the same no matter what.

Cordo told me. He tied me to a chair and he showed me some videos. And when he was done the drop rates were always the same.

Also one-time teleports into explorer areas. Tots worth about $1.25 each time to skip a 2 minute run.

I think there's definitely something odd about the drop rates when content is new versus mature.

However, I am starting to suspect that the global drop rates may not change with the age of the content but that there's some sort of anti-farming code that is character specific and tied to the life of the toon.  I think it may be similar to the ransack code that just slowly lowers the chances of getting named loot on a given toon in a given mission based on how many times that toon has run it.  We know for sure they can track how many times a toon has run a mission (/quest completions) and we know they have code to manipulate drop rates based on the number of completions (ransack).   It would have been trivial for them to use parts of that code to do something like this.

My anecdotal evidence is that when U31 was released, I was on a build/life that could sneak the entire Good Intentions mission on EE in under 10 minutes so I ransacked it for a couple of weeks straight helping guildies get the named loot.   The first week, I had multiples of every named item drop for that toon.  By the second and third weeks, even with fresh ransack timers, that toon was getting virtually zero named drops even though they were falling like rain for other people in the group who hadn't ransacked it like I did.

I've TR'd twice since that.  Occasionally I'll go back and run that mission again if someone needs something from it.  My toon still almost never gets named loot anymore, even though I only run it maybe once a month now.  The other people in the group who haven't farmed it like I did still seem to get a decent rate of named drops.

I recently leveled an alt to 30 and ran the mission multiple times on that toon to get the ring.  I got 3 or 4 named items before hitting ransack.  I suspect if I had continued to ransack it for another week or two, the named drop rates would dwindle to minimal rates even after the ransack timers had reset.

I'm aware that this is all anecdotal and that the sample sizes are small, but I've spent enough hours in the game over the past few years to get an overall feel for the drop rates of named items in general.  They definitely change in some way as new content ages.

If I am correct, technically Turbine has told the truth when they denied changing the global drop rates after new content has been out a while.   If it's per character and it's automated, they're not actually "changing the global rate".  Hell, even if a character-specific lifetime ransack code does exist, the current dev team may not be aware of it given their lack of knowledge and general incompetence at the other stuff we've seen.

Revaulting wrote on Dec 13^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

When the experience is consistent across several years and there's only one or two stories that fit, it's hardly "made up".

Vaultaccount wrote on Dec 11^th, 2016 at 6:11pm:


Tomes & boxes.

Frank wrote on Dec 14^th, 2016 at 9:25am:

LOL.  Ok, moron, you're all about the facts and actual data eh?  Time to put up or shut up. 

1% eh?  Let's see those facts.  Go ahead and kill General Tanankh 100 times.  Be sure to document all 100 kills with a screenshot of the corpse, the loot window from the chest, and a browser tab showing the date and time from http://www.time.gov/ in it.  No cheating by looting a bunch of the chests while on ransack, either.  I bet you'll get more than 1 RoSS.  Hell, you'll get 2 or more.  To make sure the data is accurate, you should probably do two sets of 100 kills.

Between my main and alts I really doubt I've killed Tanankh 100+ times but I've seen at least 6 RoSS.

Have you heard of Rodrak?

5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 14^th, 2016 at 3:28pm:

Some quick googling indicates that they were a DDO player and most of their posts on the motherboards seem to be related to loot drops and drop rates.  The timestamps on those posts show they were well before the time I started playing DDO though.   

Can you provide the summary of why he is relevant to this?