Just so you lads know, our favorite Dupe Store dude did a giveaway on EvE Online, got people to help finance an even bigger giveaway on EvE Online, took money for subscriptions on his Discord server, and then tore down his Discord server today, presumably running off with the loot and a month subscription from a bunch of people.

He outed himself because he loved the "don't make Strayfe work" rule from the Vault, and used it in his server.

What type of sad-ass, broke-ass loser has to not only turn to duping for money but cheating people as well?

Loser isn't a strong enough word.  We need a new word to describe someone so sad and pathetic.

Bobbicus wrote on Sep 18^th, 2023 at 8:32pm:


Oh, bless your heart.  Do you live somewhere that's considered a lot of money for a side hustle?  Are you a euro-poor?  Are you from Alabama?

He ran that scam for what?  At least a year?  I'm not even talking about when he idled down to just the occasional sale.  You count that and he was at it at least two years.  We'll call it a year though.

20k for a years worth of work (if he even made that much, and even if he did, I'm sure he's not factoring in the out of pocket costs, so he didn't clear that much) or even 6 months is only impressive if you're really, really poor.  He could have just went to Wal-Mart and been a door greeter for 6 months and probably made at least that much.  Probably would have made more if he did it for a year.  You don't hear many people bragging about their side hustle at Wal-Mart.

Come to think of it, doesn't look like he ever got that game room he was talking about up and running.  Seems he's not doing that well if he put in that much work to make so little.  If you talk to him again, tell him he should actually consider making the move to New Mexico.  Cost of living is very low there from what I understand.  Seems like he's having trouble making ends meet where he's at.

No, he is an asshole but sometimes the world needs assholes because otherwise the dimwitted won't learn. This is the rule of the internet. All those scammed should feel lucky they only gave money and not brain cells. They wouldn't be able to breath anymore let alone tie their shoes.

Dragonborn wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 6:32am:


Jealous of what exactly?  Pulling in roughly 25 bucks a day over a two year period?

Nothing to be jealous about.  Just sad they're so broke they needed money that bad.  Slightly sadder they feel a need to brag about it.

You could offer me 25 bucks a day just to get out of bed 10 minutes early and I'd tell you to go fuck yourself.

Count Dante wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 8:45am:


I've got no skin in the game, but using your example, you must earn quite a high salary to say no to after tax earnings of $150 per hour, likely at least $200-$225 pre tax hourly, equal to 400K to 450K annually...

Head-Meat wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 12:37pm:



I definitely still play thanks to the dupers. That's twice now rampant cheating has kept me playing!

SpaceGoat wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 11:47am:


150 per hour I wouldn't sneer at.  That's not chump change.  He wasn't making near that.

I'm going to be very generous with this because I'm a nice guy.

He was at it for two years, but for this we're going to say one.  He was charging more but had slowed in how many he was duping (since he could no longer be as blatant as he'd been).  He can deny it all he wants, but those who know, know.

We'll say a year.  He probably made the mass of that 20k in that year but not all of it, but we'll say he did make it all in one year.

That comes out to about 55 bucks a day for his side hustle.  If he was doing it in an hour, it's not great but again, not exactly chump change.

Again, he'll lie but there's no way he was doing it all in just an hour a day.  First 6 months he was hustling and promoting around the clock.  Contacting people, sending messages, working discord.  Building a web site, dealing with the legal threats from SSG.  Plea bargaining.   

And that's not even getting into the duping itself.  Transferring toons, making new dummy accounts, using 3 different accounts per transaction to try and keep his storage mules safe.  Waiting for buyers, drag and dropping during the sales.

Min 4 hours a day and I wouldn't be surprised if it came out to nearly twice that.  Starting out, this was a full time job.

Even at 4 hours a day?  50 bucks?  Kids with paper routes probably make more than that.

This wasn't a low effort endeavor.  You don't put that much effort into it for "props" (though it was funny him begging like a dog for attention and a title and getting denied it). 

He did it because his sorry ass was broke.

No idea where you got that 400k number from.  Even at part time, 20k a year gets you 400k never.

expose this guy and release his name so everyone knows

I'm not sure that $20k is accurate, i think it might be more. i bought from him and some friends who didn't wanna make contact with him had me facilitate their sales as well so just that i know of for certain he made 6K in 3 days. Maybe not the same guy as you guys are talking about but we did all get our boxes.


Count Dante wrote on Sep 18^th, 2023 at 6:10pm:



"Grand" Pretty much sums it up for me. scammed me out of 3 boxes when i was new by pretending to be 3 different people at once, kinda like what he did here but a little more impressive since he played the personas on Skype and actually spoke. the guy is next level Pathetic.

Hardcore_Girl wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 3:34pm:


First there was dupapalooza. Then the XP stone re-use. Then boxes. So 3 times cheating kept me playing and paying.

Hardcore_Girl wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 3:34pm:


Lynn could at least make money selling ass. Steel would be the bum sitting in a cardboard shack by the bathroom begging for change.

liljiggy wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 3:56am:


Nah, the $20k was the scam. He got $55k legit, too.

liljiggy wrote on Sep 19^th, 2023 at 3:56am:


Yeah, I'm with Eighnuss, spacegoat and Bobbi boy on this, lilJiggy is clearly salty and very pissed about this.

Why the fuck do you even care Jiggy? you weren't even around when it went down man, and all of the brief returns by ddoplayer98 was in the years before you had an account, its not like you got nailed.

And what is the fucking deal with bitching about bragging? I mean this is the fucking Vault right? people have been bragging about shit they do and don't have a right to brag about here since Strake opened the place, so I'm confused as to why you and wonder twins are so bent out of shape by Vaulters doing what Vaulters do man, seriously, what's the fucking deal?