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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #75 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 9:31am	Print Post
	The problem they have is that the content is not interesting enough to hold your attention for such things as grinding ingredients. Duping also accomplishes that same thing... you complete everything quick and then lose interest because you already have everything. So, either way they are fucked.


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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #76 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 9:44am	Print Post
	Kluege wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 9:31am: The problem they have is that the content is not interesting enough to hold your attention for such things as grinding ingredients.� Duping also accomplishes that same thing...� you complete everything quick and then lose interest because you already have everything. So, either way they are fucked. I like the Shroud. That was an awesome raid that is so much fun to repeat, if only to grind out gear/ingredients. They went overboard with Thunderforged. They got too greedy with raid bypass timers. There was too much pay to win, that exploiting became the easiest course. I would still play raids if they're fun. Lag wipes are not fun at all. That said, my caster is gonna hit epic levels soon(ish) - Orien, get ready to rumble!!!

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Gringo Abbot Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 881 Location: Prague, Europe Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #77 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:09am	Print Post
	Shroud was also great for having tons of loot along the way - so there were people running it just for making income, even when nothing shroud specific not needed - just for plat+completions to have slight chance of tomes at 20ths now u have to run the raid to have 20th to actually get something from raid loot.


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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #78 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:49am	Print Post
	I have to disagree. There is no quest/raid I find that interesting that I want to run it every night when I log in. If a friend sents me a tell or I see someone I know running a raid, maybe I go. Mostly, I just do a quick run through the Epic Orchard quests and call it a night. I can remember spending hours doing raids on multiple toons trying to get raid loot having a blast with friends along the way....usually cracking jokes and making fun of how someone died. That was of course before raid timers and before top end gear being crafted stuff. Now, if I want to run a raid, I can do it by myself over and over with raid timers.


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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #79 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:34am	Print Post
	Good old days before motu, running raids on hard or elite for challenge. Vod, tod, hox, shroud, chrono, von6.


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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #80 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:57am	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:34am: Good old days before motu, running raids on hard or elite for challenge.� Vod, tod, hox, shroud, chrono, von6. That can still happen. Everyone roll up a fresh iconic. We're doing VOD!

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Puppies Waterworks Kobold Offline "Sua Sponte" "De Oppresso Liber" Posts: 185 Location: Fort Campbell Joined: Nov 29^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #81 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:58am	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:34am: Good old days before motu, running raids on hard or elite for challenge.� Vod, tod, hox, shroud, chrono, von6. Back when it was Modules and not Updates... How long did it take for Module 2 - Titan to be defeated? Like 2 and a half years or something? Now shit is kinda weak...even w/ my underpar swashie I can tank and kill both the dragons on Thunder Peak on EH (havent tried EE)... They kinda took away from the adventurous part. Back during Alpha, Beta, Founders and early 2006/2007 my guild that migrated from Morningthaw from Asheron's Call 1 (Knights of Fortune) we would get drunk and scream at each other on party chat when we wiped in Kobold Assault on Hard. Granted; even though I do exploit shit to make it easier, I dont enjoy the Shroud, or Thunderholme, or DW/TP Raids, or Epic Necro4, or Abbot/MoD any less than I did before. Plus it kinda makes dudes feel good when you're just giving away all your taps and phlogs. Just my $.02

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Viktor Vaughn Puppy Farmer Offline Eberron burns Posts: 1561 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #82 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:57am: That can still happen. Everyone roll up a fresh iconic. We're doing VOD! But now you cant fail, when was the last time you had raid wipe? How can it happen when everyone have 1000000 pots.
	« Last Edit: Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:12pm by Viktor Vaughn »

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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #83 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	My opinion is that they should go back to the old raid loot rules, slightly adjusted.� On normal or Epic normal..� regular crappy drops we see now.� On Hard, 1 piece guaranteed, Elite 2 pieces guaranteed.� Get rid of raid timer bypasses, but lower the counter to like 24 hours or something. Although I do use the bypasses (because they are there), it has definitely made this game less friendly. People run 1 toon and with a static group of folks who all have bypasses..
	« Last Edit: Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:17pm by Kluege »

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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #84 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:11pm: But now you cant fail, when was the last time you had raid wipe? How can it happen when everyone have 1000000 pots. Fresh iconic. With NADA in their inventory except the iconic starter equipment. No pots. No scrolls.

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Kluege Dragon Raider Offline Hi Posts: 246 Location: Philly Joined: Aug 6^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #85 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	Viktor Vaughn wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:11pm: But now you cant fail, when was the last time you had raid wipe? How can it happen when everyone have 1000000 pots. Its not the pots or the duping that made this game easy.... it was the epic destiny system. There has not been any kind of challenge with this game since that happened.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #86 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 1:25pm	Print Post
	Kluege wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 10:49am: I have to disagree.� There is no quest/raid I find that interesting that I want to run it every night when I log in.� EE MOD speed runs.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #87 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 1:26pm	Print Post
	NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 11:57am: That can still happen. Everyone roll up a fresh iconic. We're doing VOD! bravery Bonus VOD pugs can still be very entertaining.


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Aeolwind HERALD OF HATE Offline DDO: More broken than peanut brittle Posts: 2074 Location: Sarlona Joined: Apr 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #88 - Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 3:08pm	Print Post
	Kluege wrote on Dec 3^rd, 2014 at 12:59pm: There has not been any kind of challenge with this game since that happened. There is still a challenge on a new character until you get Divine Crusader, Fury or LD maxed out. Once that happens however yeah, you coast. Even my monk in GMOF coasted from 25-28. Charge EIN, create a train, poof.


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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #89 - Dec 5^th, 2014 at 3:41am	Print Post
	Nope, false alarm, duping still works (lamm, as of dec 3), just differently.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #90 - Dec 5^th, 2014 at 3:42am	Print Post
	And gj turdbin for keeping features for 5 years now.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Oracler Titan Demolisher Offline Sploits! omnomnom.. Posts: 387 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #91 - Dec 5^th, 2014 at 7:56pm	Print Post
	m4lacka wrote on Dec 5^th, 2014 at 3:41am: Nope, false alarm, duping still works (lamm, as of dec 3), just differently.� Care to elaborate? or a hint ?

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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4374 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #92 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 2:42am	Print Post
	Oracler wrote on Dec 5^th, 2014 at 7:56pm: Care to elaborate? or a hint ? Use PM's pls. Don't make their job easier. Actually make them do some QA before releasing. Or better yet, leave them thinking "job done" and pat themselves on the back, while we use yet another workaround.

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m4lacka Horoluth Raider Offline Coitus ergo sum. Posts: 2494 Joined: Mar 19^th, 2014	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #93 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:15am	Print Post
	Oracler wrote on Dec 5^th, 2014 at 7:56pm: Care to elaborate? or a hint ? The only hint I am going to give is the classic hint you get here. Go somewhere in game, where you either use something or not, which requires you to either DC or not. And maybe do some stuff to create a process delay.

	Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29^th, 2016 at 7:06pm: The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics. Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed. Arkat wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2014 at 4:14pm: And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently! Wow. Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School? No? Then STFU you fucking amateur. Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29^th, 2015 at 12:03am: Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people. IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8^th, 2014 at 5:40pm: Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #94 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	DropBear wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 2:42am: Use PM's pls.� Don't make their job easier. Actually make them do some QA before releasing. Or better yet, leave them thinking "job done" and pat themselves on the back, while we use yet another workaround. As long as the title of the thread isn't interesting to Turbine AND the first post in the thread doesn't enumerate the process at a second grade reading level (including screenshots), they won't find it here. Unless someone decides to send MajMal a PM.
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	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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Revaulting Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Posts: 10143 Location: Not in my pants Joined: Apr 3^rd, 2014 Gender:	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #95 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 1:22pm	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 12:48pm: As long as the title of the thread isn't interesting to Turbine AND the boobies in the thread doesn't enumerate the process at a second grade reading level (including screenshots), they won't find it here. Unless someone decides to send MajMal a PM. I was rather fond of a few old Hi Welcome posts in the honeypot.

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Rincewind Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 97 Joined: Jun 12^th, 2013	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #96 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:46pm	Print Post
	OldCoaly wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 12:48pm: As long as the title of the thread isn't interesting to Turbine AND the first post in the thread doesn't enumerate the process at a second grade reading level (including screenshots), they won't find it here. Unless someone decides to send MajMal a PM. Does MAjMal still cares about DDO?? did he ever? ;p


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DropBear Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Don't forget to look up.... Posts: 4374 Location: Landdownunder Joined: Oct 11^th, 2013	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #97 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	Rincewind wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:46pm: Does MAjMal still cares about DDO?? did he ever? ;p I really don't think he does now.� Having moved on, I doubt he cares about crap like this to send info to Turdbine. However, he could join with a new account and become a contributor to help us resist the Zyngafication of DDO.� � Succumb to the power of the Dark Side MajMal, let your hatred manifest, let your anger fill you, focus your revenge on those who did you ill!
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OldCoaly Puppy Farmer Offline Why did you think this time would be different? Posts: 1564 Location: WAAHH!!!Testing stuff is HARD! Joined: Jul 1^st, 2011	Re: Duping Fixed On Lama Reply #98 - Dec 6^th, 2014 at 6:37pm	Print Post
	Rincewind wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 4:46pm: Does MAjMal still cares about DDO?? did he ever? ;p He cared enough to make posts, and he cared enough to make some of his posts seem as though he was engaged, which is more effort than most of the developers put forward. I don't think he was a saint, but he might have cared a little.

	Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8^th, 2013 at 10:43pm: they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan. Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1^st, 2014 at 1:11pm: Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things. eighnuss wrote on May 27^th, 2014 at 12:52pm: everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 12:12am: I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy. Skoodge wrote on Nov 27^th, 2014 at 6:54am: DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass. GooFY wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 5:36pm: Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence. � Meursault wrote on May 11^th, 2015 at 8:10pm: Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up. Meursault wrote on Nov 12^th, 2015 at 2:50pm: Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close. palmer01 wrote on Nov 20^th, 2015 at 9:05am: Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy. PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4^th, 2016 at 1:24am: The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.
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	DropBear wrote on Dec 6^th, 2014 at 6:29pm: However, he could join with a new account and become a contributor to help us resist the Zyngafication of DDO.� � Succumb to the power of the Dark Side MajMal, let your hatred manifest, let your anger fill you, focus your revenge on those who did you ill! Wolverines!

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