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Reply #25 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 9:15pm
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Illetirated wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 9:05pm:
The only thing that bothers me on the vault is the spammers like DiddleDoo


The only thing that bothers me on the vault is:



I've had enough of it... i207.photobucket.com ... meet the hosts file. Problem solved! Smiley
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Reply #26 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 9:30pm
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http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb21/elfacada/Gifs/japao1.gif

I've had enough of it... i207.photobucket.com ... meet the hosts file. Problem solved! Smiley


Ad Blocker is great for this, which of course is just a hosts file wrapper but still, nice to just right click and blix stuff at work when people here post ridiculous shit
  
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Reply #27 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 10:06pm
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Arkat wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
You being a dick just to do the provoking isn't all that cool in my book.


I agree with this.

Ignore the needless dickery.  They leave or shut up given a lack of interaction.













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they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
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Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things.
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I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy.
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Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close.
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Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy.
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Reply #28 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 10:46pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:34pm:
Yeah you're right.

I would just like to see more people from the regular forums come here to participate and learn to the extent that it is possible. I'd also like obnoxious people who pad post counts clogging up threads with nonsense to get booted. I don't mean people joking around that's fine, but when two people go at it and create 30 threads of garbage, that's a bit annoying.

To those giving me shit right now,

People can complain about the fight I had with Hag Master in builds, but really, look at my post history and look at his. Who padded who's post count and who has at least tried to contribute over time? That guy is a complete joke.


You're guilty of the garbage posting, too.  Your defense of said garbage posting is rendered moot by the kindergarten level life lessons of "Two wrongs don't make a right." and "It takes two to fight."

Trying to win an argument with an idiot on the internet generally just makes you the other idiot in the argument.  Even if you win the argument, what have you won?  You beat an idiot in an argument on the internet... big deal.  If they win however... you just lost an argument to an idiot. 


  
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Reply #29 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 10:57pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:34pm:
People can complain about the fight I had with Hag Master in builds, but really, look at my post history and look at his. Who padded who's post count and who has at least tried to contribute over time? That guy is a complete joke.



Despite this place supposedly being a cesspool, you have the very simple ability to just ignore trolls. It doesnt require moderation. It doesnt require people being banned. You can ignore them.

And when Strake gets angry he will step in and deal with them.

I cant imagine a time when I would get worked up over anything anyone said.
  
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Reply #30 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 11:16pm
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HairyO wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 10:57pm:
Despite this place supposedly being a cesspool, you have the very simple ability to just ignore trolls. It doesnt require moderation. It doesnt require people being banned. You can ignore them.

And when Strake gets angry he will step in and deal with them.

I cant imagine a time when I would get worked up over anything anyone said.


cool story you must be rad
  
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Reply #31 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 11:20pm
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Arkat wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
For the most part, I agree.

However, there are some here who are dicks merely because they can be without getting banned/being moderated or whatever.

It's ok to be a dick if the situation warrants it like when you're needlessly provoked. Another time when it's ok is when responding to a completely moronic post. (Example: Experience point bonuses like potions, VIP bonus, etc. stack additively and have for years. Some dumbass comes along and claims they stack multiplicatively despite common knowledge to the contrary.) In cases like that, I say "Fire away."

You being a dick just to do the provoking isn't all that cool in my book.


Well said.
  
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Reply #32 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 11:22pm
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 11:16pm:
cool story you must be rad


  

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Reply #33 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 11:28pm
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HairyO wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 10:57pm:
Despite this place supposedly being a cesspool, you have the very simple ability to just ignore trolls. It doesnt require moderation. It doesnt require people being banned. You can ignore them.



Well put.

The whole world is going politically correct and it sickens me. Last thing the vault needs is regulation to prevent someone's tender feelings from being bruised.  if I don't like something I skip to the next thread. Its my choice on what I want to see or read or participate in. If something truly upsets you or offends you then move along to somewhere else.

I don't even bother with the motherboards anymore as the drivel on them is not even worth reading. I prefer the vault as it is uncensored within reason. As for post counts who cares.. its quite simple to figure out who the morons are and just skipping over them. Trying to control it is a waste of time better spent on

  

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Reply #34 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 11:29pm
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Yes there is a post above the picture ... Tongue
  

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Reply #35 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 12:02am
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The only thing that bothers me on the vault is:

*picy-pic*

I've had enough of it... i207.photobucket.com ... meet the hosts file. Problem solved! Smiley


What type of weirdo would post that pic?
  

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Reply #36 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 12:13am
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There is a lot of stupid/useless/offensive posts here.
There is a lot of stupid/useless/offensive posts on the moderated forum.
It seems to me that moderation does not really help that much.
  
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Reply #37 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 12:51am
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Munkenmo wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:14pm:
This is very lightly moderated.  At this point in the games life though, I think you'll find it's a bit to late to establish another knowledgable and worthwhile forum.


Yes.
  
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Reply #38 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 12:53am
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HairyO wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:26pm:
Instead of padding your post count to get to the secret section, just send Strake $50 and Im sure he will unlock the entire forum for you.


It is $60 since January.
  
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Reply #39 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 1:02am
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Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 12:53am:
It is $60 since January.


Ya gotta love inflation.
  
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Reply #40 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 3:02am
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Arkat wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
However, there are some here who are dicks merely because they can be without getting banned/being moderated or whatever.


Yur mutha wears combat boots.

A new forums would be a waste of anybody's time.  The forums not the problem, the problem is the asshats that play ddo.  Yeah we get rough here but its really no worse than the paladins on the motherboard.  Anything resembling constructive criticism there at best gets you rimmed by a bunch of paladins and, at worst, rimmed by a bunch of paladins and banned by Jerry.

Fact is, a new forum would just be a mix of paladins and vaulties and would probably end up with even more fighting than the existing forums. 

You want a happy place, make it in your head - cause it sure ain't happening out here in the real world.
  

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Re: Anyone Interested in An Alternative to The Vault?
Reply #41 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 3:12am
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
I guess my inital post wasnt very well worded. What I meant was, does anyone think a very lightly moderated Vault would fly?

Group moderation is the de facto model here. Strake's Rule: Do Not Make Strake Do Work, sees to that. As Munk said, you're looking at light moderation. What you're suggesting is work.

Another way to change The Vault, as hinted by Arkat, is to step up and be a leader. Force is an escalation. Practice de-escalation. It works.

It's just less exciting than escalation.


harharharhar wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:41pm:
While I'm not particularly polite or fluffy on the forums, I generally do not go around flaming people and going nuts. But Hag just particularly rubs me the wrong way.

This is called special pleading. Everyone does it. One step towards fewer annoying flame wars would be to practice noticing it when you do it, and finding a way to fit your ideal, without exceptions "because really good reason."


DropBear wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 6:54pm:
Ooh - 1 more stealth change. Have all Turdbine related IP's seamlessly redirected to an archive version of the Vault, but make all the posts seem current.

Shit. It's annoying enough already when my VPN cycles through Boston....


Strakeln wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
I sense entertainment potential in a moderated board.

Uh ... I think we just discovered a fourth rule: Do Not Entertain Strake.
  

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Reply #42 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 3:29am
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For the casual obsever/lurker like myself, a watered down vault would be rubbish.
where would the fun be in that?
  

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Reply #43 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 4:07am
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Arkat wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 6:34pm:
For the most part, I agree.

However, there are some here who are dicks merely because they can be without getting banned/being moderated or whatever.

It's ok to be a dick if the situation warrants it like when you're needlessly provoked. Another time when it's ok is when responding to a completely moronic post. (Example: Experience point bonuses like potions, VIP bonus, etc. stack additively and have for years. Some dumbass comes along and claims they stack multiplicatively despite common knowledge to the contrary.) In cases like that, I say "Fire away."

You being a dick just to do the provoking isn't all that cool in my book.


I am recieving special attention from you these days. Thanks! Wink
  

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The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics.

Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed.


Arkat wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:14pm:
And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently!

Wow.

Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School?

No? Then STFU you fucking amateur.


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Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people.


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Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Reply #44 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 4:09am
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All the crybitches here want changes so they can get rid of the cancerous trolly members that they simply can't handle....
You are worse than Uurlock and you should roll over and die...
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Reply #45 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 4:20am
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Bacardi wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 4:09am:
All the crybitches here want changes so they can get rid of the cancerous trolly members that they simply can't handle....
You are worse than Uurlock and you should roll over and die...
Don't forget to spam that report button


Whoa! I wont let you address Arkat in such a way! Shocked Cheesy
  

Vaultaccount wrote on Aug 29th, 2016 at 7:06pm:
The most broken epic PL in the game is the ridiculous AC buff from martial PLs. But when you include all the inherent benefits from reincarnation, the thing is above the roof. The benefit from TR was supposed to be minimal, but now it is game breaking. start a new character and you will feel, you will get raped in heroics.

Personally I think lower heroics on new characters are harder than Legendary Elite content on a character with good gear and has all destinies farmed.


Arkat wrote on Apr 2nd, 2014 at 4:14pm:
And someone in another thread called ME delusional recently!

Wow.

Have you EVER gone to Law School Feyn? Have you EVER been asked by a United States Senator who is now the Vice President of the United States to write a paper just for him on a particular topic of Constitutional Law for his use as a Senator? Have you ever been asked to help a very notable Harvard PhD turned Constitutional scholar with his very-well received book on Legal Philosophy and Constitutional Revolutions? Have you ever been offered a job as a Deputy Attorney General BEFORE you even graduated Law School?

No? Then STFU you fucking amateur.


Meat-Head wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 12:03am:
Thx. I was semi-waiting because windows 10 will be here soon. but, the crashing is making me want to punch old people.


IMARANGER wrote on Sep 8th, 2014 at 5:40pm:
Pretty sure that the fact that a service can be hacked doesn't make it the "community chest".
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Re: Anyone Interested in An Alternative to The Vault?
Reply #46 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 4:34am
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Bacardi wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 4:09am:
cancerous trolly members


You misspelled 'Greeks.'
  

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Reply #47 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 5:36am
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Well, as I see it there are two options for a new DDO forum:

a) Make a forum, be the modrater and keep the trolls at bay. That's a lot of work and you will get a lot of hate regardless.

b) Make a forum without moderation and it will turn into the vault II asap.
  

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Reply #48 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 5:44am
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Bacardi wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 4:09am:
All the crybitches here want changes so they can get rid of the cancerous trolly members that they simply can't handle....
You are worse than Uurlock and you should roll over and die...
Don't forget to spam that report button


Wow, a crybitch eh - first time for everything.
Mind if I borrow that to use on my kid's kinder class?
That should keep them in line.

  
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Reply #49 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 5:53am
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harharharhar wrote on Jun 15th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
I guess my inital post wasnt very well worded. What I meant was, does anyone think a very lightly moderated Vault would fly?


nope. For obvious reasons it will have to be a completely different forum fully separate from The Vault.

now as Strake said, it's not difficult to create a webforum, there's lots of sites that provide that kind of service for free. ( you just have to bear the ad )
Basically choice a) below :

string table error, tableDID wrote on Jun 16th, 2015 at 5:36am:
a) Make a forum, be the moderator and keep the trolls at bay. That's a lot of work and you will get a lot of hate regardless.

b) Make a forum without moderation and it will turn into the vault II asap.


anything less will be option b)

note:
for option a) you can set up a team of moderators instead of a single one... it has some advantages, but it also has some drawbacks...
And Drama between moderators is always fun to watch as a 'lowly poster'.... especially since most of the time it result in the forum splitting in two separate forums...
( think civil war ).

  

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