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After setting up a new 60Hz monitor in 4K resolution and installing Windows 10 Enterprise, i too had a twitching/non-smooth experience. FPS was jumping from 30s to 60s.

I cranked down DirectX to 9 and the FPS went crazy uphill, up to 220s.
No graphics difference that i have noticed so far.

Could just be a general server issue.  My main server has been doing that every day since around Thursday.  Visited G-land today and it seemed that 50% of people responding said they were having issues with lag.  Maybe the work they are doing tomorrow will help things (yeah right), but they are moving the servers to new upgraded ones in a database center in New Jersey sometime in the Fall.  Assuming it'll be at the same time as LotRO, it will happen in September.  That should be an improvement for everyone (except when they fuck it up, and they will).

yep, today was bit laggy - and I m not getting lag usually.

anyway last time I complained about game being twitchy - it seemed like having short lag when I moved fast, making my toon stop for a moment - I discovered fault was on my side - contact on forward button on my pad I was using was ruined:) I replaced button with another one and lag was gone:)

have you tried playing on a lower difficulty setting

Stupid questions below ...

Do you use silly things like Raptr ( ok, it's an AMD thingie, but the equivalent probably exists on the Geforce ) ?
Because I noticed that when Rapter is on on my PC my FPs is divided by 10. ( and I start crawling through Stormreach )

I think Overwolf does it too.... but I'm not certain.

First thing to do anyway : put DDO in DX9 mode. this raises a lot the FPS.

Second thing : reinstall Windows ( and everything else ).... Windows 7 support 64 bits, if you see only 3.5GB of RAM you are NOT in 64 bits.
Now the tricky part : what kind of dual core CPU and what kind of motherboard ?

Old Pentium D and First/Second Generation Cores don't have enough bandwidth in the PCIe bus anymore to handle DDO lag free.

try removing all unnecessary things from the game such as shadows. Just go to advanced video settings from the in game menu and uncheck/lower everything you deem you can live without. You can hover with your mouse on the option for a brief explanation of what that setting actually does.

This should make the game a bit less graphically appealing but also improve stability and reduce in game lag and one second freeze. Notice that you will still lag cause turdbine uses a field of potatoes as servers (it's their idea of server farm)

CosmicCharlie wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 1:04am:


This could actually work, given a lower difficulty setting means less critters, which means less strain on the machine. That said, given the always-worsening memory leaks present in DDO, you'll probably want another RAM stick so you can hold up for longer.

Flav wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 3:40am:


False as a general statement.

I spent several hours Sunday afternoon validating DDO performance on Windows 10 using an old Core2Duo E4500 (2.2ghz) with 4gig ram and an old ATI 5770 graphics card.  No SSD in the machine, but I did run DDO from an SD card which was much faster than the mechanical drive.

Running DDO with "optimal settings" as determined by DDO in 1280x1024 Windowed mode on the main monitor with Task Manager and a Youtube video playing on the second monitor, game play was smooth and frame rates did not drop below 40.

I was paying attention to frame rates using DDO's in-built frame rate display option (ctrl-F displays frame rate) and watching the performance metrics that Win10's task manager displays.  During game play, the system always had a little headroom.

I did play DDO from the machine's old 80gig mechanical drive, but the load screens took way too long to finish and there was consistently a half-second of very irritating stutter after the load screen finished that went away when I played from the $20 MicroSD card.


The OP's system specs should outperform the platform I was testing pretty handily.  Passmark indicates his GPU to be at least 10% faster.

noamineo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2015 at 11:52pm:


RAM shouldn't be a factor.  Windows may be "seeing" less than 4gig if there's on-board video that has some video allocated to it (this may be true even if you're not using the on-board video). 

Windows will use as much RAM as it can, and this is good.  Unused RAM is wasted.  Windows will load as much of whatever it thinks you're using or about to use into whatever RAM it can find because accessing data from RAM is orders of magnitude faster than getting it from a spinning platter.

You can use Resource Monitor to see what tasks are using the most memory, and more importantly how much of which programs are being swapped to disk.  Adding RAM to a system that isn't swapping to disk can improve performance, but not as much as reducing the need to swap.


noamineo wrote on Jul 26^th, 2015 at 11:52pm:


SSD are very reliable.  Much more than mechanical drives.  There is no "pretty intense gaming drive" that can get close to the performance or reliability of even a mid-range SSD.

Your mechanical drive is throttling the performance of the rest of your machine. 

DDO's "read lots of tiny files from all over" engine suffers greatly from a mechanical drive's comparatively slow random access time which is why DDO will run faster from a $10 16gb USB2.0 thumb drive than it will from a mechanical drive.

This is not to say that that running DDO from a solid state drive of some sort will solve the particular problem you're experiencing, but it'll certainly make DDO engine run less badly.

Old Coaly might have become my computer hero with this.

Now I gotta try ruining DDO from a thumb-drive.

OldCoaly wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 10:45am:

They're not *that* old.    Two or three in SLI sure helps though.

All the rest is right - DDO is shit on a platter.  Their texture loading is a mess.

OldCoaly wrote on Jul 27^th, 2015 at 2:02pm:

Yeah, that's when I bought mine.   

One of them's dying, so I just swapped slots.  Yay for displaying through a single point.

The drivers are shit though (to the surprise of no-one), and now the GPL fight's started back up again, so you can't even compile them locally without kernel edits.  Stupid.  I hate Nvidia, but ATI's even worse in some ways.