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Phone Support To End
Jun 1st, 2016 at 2:30pm
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https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/475859-Support-Adjustment#post5831536

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Greetings!

On Monday, June 6th we will be expanding our online and in-game support services as part of our efforts to provide speedier and higher quality responses to help requests. As a result, phone support will no longer be available for Dungeons and Dragons Online.

For account and billing related issues you can continue to contact us online via http://support.turbine.com.

To request assistance from within the game, simply click the ‘New Ticket’ button on the Help Panel.

Thank you!
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we will be expanding our online and in-game support services [by removing phone support] ... To request assistance from within the game, simply click the ‘New Ticket’ button on the Help Panel.



That's hilarious!

Bonus points if they require use of the bug reporting system.
  

Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 10:43pm:
they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
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Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things.
eighnuss wrote on May 27th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game
majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 12:12am:
I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy.
Skoodge wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:54am:
DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass.
GooFY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 5:36pm:
Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence.  
Meursault wrote on May 11th, 2015 at 8:10pm:
Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up.
Meursault wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 2:50pm:
Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close.
palmer01 wrote on Nov 20th, 2015 at 9:05am:
Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy.
PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4th, 2016 at 1:24am:
The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.

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That's a mistake, imo.
  
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Asheras wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 3:38pm:
That's a mistake, imo.



Apparently your'e not the only one:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/475868-You-shut-down-phone-support-and...



Making the announcement a closed thread was a sure way to throw fuel on what could have been a small short fire....... Classic Fat Jerry move.
  
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Grand wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 3:48pm:
Apparently your'e not the only one:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/475868-You-shut-down-phone-support-and...



Making the announcement a closed thread was a sure way to throw fuel on what could have been a small short fire....... Classic Fat Jerry move.


That's taking a mistake and doubling down on it. 

EDIT:  Zebedar is an idiot.  Most every post reminds me of the quote "If your only tool is a hammer, every problem is a nail."  Zeb is most definitely a tool.  And a very limited one at that.
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Asheras wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 3:50pm:
That's taking a mistake and doubling down on it. 


How is Fat Jerry still getting a paycheck?  Grin
  
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Grand wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 3:51pm:
How is Fat Jerry still getting a paycheck?  Grin

  It definitely feels heavy handed at best and fuck you at worst.  If you have to follow policy, create an announcement thread you close and also have an official discussion thread on the topic that you start immediately so that you can converse with customers on the matter.  Be creative and proactive and solve the problem you know is coming.  Cordovan needed to get in front of this.  And not it the "let it run you over" kind of way.
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Just found this:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=7604471#post7604471


LoTRO ended phone support too.  Although in their thread, they let customers comment immediately.  So it must not be a Turbine rule to close announcement threads like this.  Someone made an individual call.
  
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I had a bit of a chuckle with the spin in the locked thread. "We're improving support by terminating phone support! YAY US!"
  
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What CodeBlue seems to be saying is they're going to offer more in-game support (responding to GM requests I guess), but since their budget is so razor thin they had to turn off phone support.

You know, like how some months you pay the electric bill and others you pay the phone bill when you're skating next to dead broke.  So, that's a good sign. Shocked

But can't get on board with the "they closed it to silence debate" bandwagon.  It'd be like arguing that he also closed the next few threads down Fraud Prevention FAQ and Account Support FAQs to prevent the debate on those things.  It just feels like a trap, something to easily dismiss. Rather than keeping posts focused on the fact that they closed phone support, to which you basically just respond to by saying, "holy shit, they can't afford to have phone support."
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Spoon wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:15pm:
What CodeBlue seems to be saying is they're going to offer more in-game support (responding to GM requests I guess), but since their budget is so razor thin they had to turn off phone support.

You know, like how some months you pay the electric bill and others you pay the phone bill when you're skating next to dead broke.  So, that's a good sign. Shocked

But can't get on board with the "they closed it to silence debate" bandwagon.  It'd be like arguing that he also closed the next few threads down Fraud Prevention FAQ and Account Support FAQs to prevent the debate on those things.  It just makes you sound dumb to argue and easier for other people to refocus the discussion on whether or not the thread was closed for sinister reasons, something that can be spinned around.  Rather than that they closed teh phone support which you basically just respond to by saying, "holy shit, they can't afford to have phone support."


Yeah.  I agree with you.  The closed thread is consistent with previous threads of this nature.  But I don't get why you don't immediately create a discussion thread too and say:  "I know this is a big change and some folks will have questions or concerns about it.  So let me hear your thoughts."

Presentation is everything on stuff like this.
  
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Asheras wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:19pm:
Yeah.  I agree with you.  The closed thread is consistent with previous threads of this nature.  But I don't get why you don't immediately create a discussion thread too and say:  "I know this is a big change and some folks will have questions or concerns about it.  So let me hear your thoughts."

Presentation is everything on stuff like this.


See no, totally agree with you there.  That would have been a much better way of handling the announcement, so you know, outside Turbine's customer relations capabilities.  No dropping a turdbomb announcement and then walking away hoping no one saw it and flipped out when you know people are going to flip out sounds like the operating practice of well Turbine.  Unless of course they somehow didn't realize people would flip out (another suggestive possibility).

If Zebe had pointed that out or just said, hey, they closed phone support did anyone else see how they buried it down there, I bet people would be on board with that and on point.  Instead, we're going to get the tired old back and forth of people arguing on why they locked the thread taking air out of the conversation on why they closed the phone support.
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Grand wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 3:51pm:
How is Fat Jerry still getting a paycheck?  Grin


He provides other "services" that people are apparently willing to pay for.
  
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Reply #13 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:40pm
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there are now 3 threads on mobos about the phone closure. good times. mang. good times
  

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Reply #14 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:41pm
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As a result, phone support will no longer be available for Dungeons and Dragons Online.

Fucking great.  Now the only Turbine employees I've had a good experience interacting with will be fired.  Fuck.   Cry
  

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Spoon wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:15pm:
What CodeBlue seems to be saying is they're going to offer more in-game support (responding to GM requests I guess), but since their budget is so razor thin they had to turn off phone support.

You know, like how some months you pay the electric bill and others you pay the phone bill when you're skating next to dead broke.  So, that's a good sign. Shocked


That's about the most optimistic way to interpret the change, but it's not very realistic.

For everyone who has bothered to comment on it, phone support was the fastest way to get account support and always ended with a positive outcome.

If ColdBlue were sincere about "efforts to provide speedier and higher quality responses to help requests", they'd be expanding phone support. 

Removing the aspect of a function that raises the average perception of its performance while "expanding" the part that is widely perceived to perform poorly (there have been exceptions to this, but +krymux+ won't be around forever) is not going to provide speedier, higher quality anything. 

I'm also sure that "expanding" means "same people now responsible for 100% instead of 80%" and not "we have allocated additional new resources to this task".

It's not raining on your leg.

It would have been better to announce the end of phone support without the unnecessary and obvious lie about quality and speed.

This is something most 10 year olds understand.
  

Groo The Wanderer wrote on Sep 8th, 2013 at 10:43pm:
they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
Darth Anonymous wrote on Feb 1st, 2014 at 1:11pm:
Hearing something has "merit" but we don't have "time" kind of says everything about how Turbine works on things.
eighnuss wrote on May 27th, 2014 at 12:52pm:
everyone but turbine knows that we are sad they are destroying our game
majmalphunktion wrote on Aug 30th, 2013 at 12:12am:
I don't make the game, I just get tested what they build. Sorry you are not happy.
Skoodge wrote on Nov 27th, 2014 at 6:54am:
DDO is easy to summarize - the greatest game to suck the most ass.
GooFY wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 5:36pm:
Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence.  
Meursault wrote on May 11th, 2015 at 8:10pm:
Other companies will settle for shitting out garbage, Turdbin actually prefers to. Especially if they can get us to buy it, that just cracks them up.
Meursault wrote on Nov 12th, 2015 at 2:50pm:
Breaking something and putting it back together isn't as good as not breaking it to begin with, it's not even close.
palmer01 wrote on Nov 20th, 2015 at 9:05am:
Devs do not care what players want - they already have an agenda and give out token gestures so the paladins can feel worthy.
PersonaNonGrata wrote on Oct 4th, 2016 at 1:24am:
The DDO devs aren't motivated by a positive user experience.

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Reply #16 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 5:20pm
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It makes sense from a financial and resources standpoint - working in CS here's my take: answering phones means the person on the phone can only help one person at a time. Its resource-intensive. Meanwhile, handling emails and chats lets more people actively receive support.

E.G.: instead of sitting on hold for an hour, you send out an email and get a response in half an hour.

Not saying you'll see times like that, just that it's the logic behind it.
  

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Honestly, like phone support ever did a fucking thing for anyone, at all.
  
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Honestly, like phone support ever did a fucking thing for anyone, at all.


way many more times than any other avenues of support, yeah they did ........
  
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Jelly_Muffin wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 6:39pm:
way many more times than any other avenues of support, yeah they did ........


Agreed. Its pretty much universally known that phone support was the only support avenue that ever got anything done.

Way to go, McWhuerto, you couldn't even get the smallest detail about the game right.
  

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All I ever got from phone support were instructions on how to submit a ticket, and a statement about how in-game issues had to be handled by in-game suppport; your experience may vary.
  
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All I ever got from phone support were instructions on how to submit a ticket, and a statement about how in-game issues had to be handled by in-game suppport; your experience may vary.

If your language and attitude on the phone are anywhere in the same ballpark as the language and attitude you use here, I would not be surprised if the person on the other end of the call did the bare minimum to "help" you there.
  

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Selee wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:20pm:
If your language and attitude on the phone are anywhere in the same ballpark as the language and attitude you use here, I would not be surprised if the person on the other end of the call did the bare minimum to "help" you there.


They just flat out suck: fucking tits on a fucking bull.
  
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Reply #23 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:33pm
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Asheras wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 3:38pm:
That's a mistake, imo.


Why?  If they had faster and better in game support, I'd prefer that to phone support.  I know game support isn't going to improve, but I just don't feel phone support is important. 

The one time I called phone support (permabanned for advertising occupy stormreach) they couldn't even tell me why I was banned.  I had to wait three days for them to email me the reason, and then another week to tell me I'd be unbanned in several more weeks.  None of this was essential to talk to someone on the phone. 

Also for people outside the U.S., phone support may not be an option.
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AtomicMew wrote on Jun 1st, 2016 at 7:33pm:
If they had faster and better in game support


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