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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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Rubbinns wrote
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actually is imp evasion. functionally the exact same and doesnt stack.
improved evasion.
Words are hard, I know. Different things are called by different names; it can be overwhelming. However, for the sake of clarity, brevity, and protecting the Queen's English, we all go out of our way to try and call things what they are. Rangers don't get improved evasion, they get a gay-ass tree ability that takes what, 33 points to aquire, and locks you out of all other tier 5 abilities in the process? Hardly the same as a single feat...called imroved evasion....which is not that.
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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FTFY
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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[] wrote
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Hardly the same as a single feat
exact same. no difference. actual improved evasion
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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Rubbinns wrote
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exact same. no difference. actual improved evasion
Improved Evasion =
9 Levels Monk or
10 Levels Rogue (at least) or
5 Levels Ranger + 6 AP (would need to be at least be 9 Levels of Ranger or splash 2 Rogue/2 Monk to have evasion in the 1st place).
No matter the equation or the wording the result is the same. IMPROVED EVASION.
Edit: I'm not sure how it works with Evasion from Epic Destinies. I would assume the same as the rest.
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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It's not the same, as I pointed out, it costs WAY more to get, and it locks you into a 5th tier; PRO TIP: it even has a different name. Words are hard, huh?
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It's not the same, as I pointed out, it costs WAY more to get, and it locks you into a 5th tier; PRO TIP: it even has a different name. Words are hard, huh?
Its a boat!
no...its a ship!
PRO TIP: They both float.
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Again, completely different set of requirements, and nomenclature; it's not hard to figure out, people.
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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[] wrote
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completely different set of requirements
1+1=2; me use wood as wood weighs less then the volume of water it displaces; build big boat = floaty!
1+1=6-8; me use heavy metal. weight displaces water creating buoyancy force; build big ship = floaty!
different set of requirements with the same result.
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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You experts on Improved Evasion should consider becoming proficient with the "ignore knn" script as well. Arguing with him benefits nobody.
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they will probably congratulate themselves on how long they "kept it going" never able to see that it could have easily managed to keep itself going for far longer if they had just meddled far less drastically and with some semblance of an actual gameplan.
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Turbine - So incompetent that we are skeptical when they report their own incompetence.
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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[] wrote
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It's not the same, as I pointed out, it costs WAY more to get, and it locks you into a 5th tier; PRO TIP: it even has a different name. Words are hard, huh?
Improved evasion:
You can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. When you attempt a Reflex save against an effect that normally does half damage when saved against, you suffer no damage if you successfully save and
half damage even if you fail.
Evasive Dance:
Improves your Evasion ability so on a failed Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, you only take 85/70/
50% damage.
Pretty much the same.
[] wrote
on Jan 20
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it costs WAY more to get
Unless the description is wrong, only costs +3 AP.
[] wrote
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and it locks you into a 5th tier
You know... he took dance of death, dual perfection and another t5 stuff... he's already locked into the tier 5!
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Some of us know what we are doing, and some people have their heads squarely up their asses; I'll let the reader make those distinctions.
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OldCoaly wrote
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You experts on Improved Evasion should consider becoming proficient with the "ignore knn" script as well. Arguing with him benefits nobody.
Sound advice but abstinence isn't always the right move either.
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[] wrote
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Some of us know what we are doing, and some people have their heads squarely up their asses; I'll let the reader make those distinctions.
You're the one who's been attempting a
manual
DoS attack.
Silence is golden, but I only get silver rolls.
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You're the one who's been attempting a
manual
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I like that; good one.
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Re: U29 Max DPS Melee Ranger.
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Any concrete numbers on Harbringer damage per a hit? Seems like it would be about 80 dmg on non lawful and 240 on lawful? Don't see it worth dropping dire charge for.
I went Elf STR based scimitar with Dragonmarks for 6m displacements, 4 dmg, and 3% DS.
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Sergod wrote
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Any concrete numbers on Harbringer damage per a hit? Seems like it would be about 80 dmg on non lawful and 240 on lawful?
According to the formula, it should be ~45/135. It is higher in game though.
Sergod wrote
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Don't see it worth dropping dire charge for.
Dire charge is great for helplessness. This build has Balanced Attacks though, so everything is already helpless. Also, the build already has too many active attacks.
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5 Foot Step wrote
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According to the formula, it should be ~45/135. It is higher in game though.
Dire charge is great for helplessness. This build has Balanced Attacks though, so everything is already helpless. Also, the build already has too many active attacks.
interesting. that is a fair amount of dps from harbringer. not sure i could give up dire charge, personally.
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Not worth giving up dire charge for. Saved my life many times on LE.
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yardarm_ wrote
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Not worth giving up dire charge for. Saved my life many times on LE.
yep. dire charge is amazing on LE. cc is king on le. combining it with dance of death clears a pack.
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yardarm_ wrote
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Not worth giving up dire charge for. Saved my life many times on LE.
Am I the only one experiencing problems with Dire Charge not actually taking effect? The animation goes off and the mobs don't care (they make no saves) often enough to make me dislike it enough to not keep it.
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Galadriel wrote
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Am I the only one experiencing problems with Dire Charge not actually taking effect? The animation goes off and the mobs don't care (they make no saves) often enough to make me dislike it enough to not keep it.
Dire charge is affected by grazing hits.
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yardarm_ wrote
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Dire charge is affected by grazing hits.
For a character that misses on 1's only, this seems more like a 1 in 5 charges does absolutely nothing. Will test more to find out though.
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Galadriel wrote
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For a character that misses on 1's only, this seems more like a 1 in 5 charges does absolutely nothing. Will test more to find out though.
it happens sometimes. happened more when i first started using it. you just have to be careful activating it. idk how to explain it but you learn to make it not happen
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Yay to more work for us because Turdbine can't code wings + AoE stunning fist on landing
Doesn't Vanguard charge suffer from the same issue?
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