Glenalth wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 12:18pm:

Hehe, shortly after first Cove ( omg Cavalry plate ! ) I had 85 ac stalwart - so enough for elite Sully and hard Horoth or elite Horoth with bark and bard.
Only time when I literally went to piss during Horoth tankage.
Or 2 hours elite Vod pug with total pug dps of zero, not kidding.
Still, those were the best times indeed.

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For LE? For it to matter? Well over 200. PRR should be over 200 if you're a Tank (preferably over 250) but since you're a Ranger, over 100 for sure. MRR should be AT LEAST 50.

Bigjunk wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 4:37pm:


Ah, another gullible imbecile blathering away like you understand the game.  You may want to make a new completionist toon as you apparently missed everything the first time around.  Or maybe swallowing all those loads from your guild leader who also thought he knew what he was doing somehow clouded your judgtement.

First of all let me put your in your place.  I capped around 60 characters before you started your little TR queer quest to go around and around to try to get people to recognize you with your single character.

I am the one who taught the stuff to the people who taught you.   I know better than you, by a long long ways.  Period.

Let me explain again how it works since the first time you apparently didn't get it.

All the numbers you see on your character sheet?  Meaningless.   Oh there is some meaning to it but nothing close to what you think it is.

I'll say it again for the borderline retarded like this guy (bigjunk), the system takes a rough composite of your character and then breaks it down into some much much simpler than you think.

I have played the game since 2006, believe me, I know much much much more than you do.   Almost everything that you were taught (since you never came up with anything on your own, I was the one who innovated years before the people who taught you found out about it.

Anyway as I was saying, the system asks a few simple questions before creating a simple hit/defense matrix for your character.   Did you try to maintain an AC that is adequate for the level and difficult that your doing? Or did you go the way of the stupid dumb  DDO Vault fuck and dump AC and say something gay and retarded to the effect of "blur" displacement" ghostly is your friend" As if you had some semblance of what was going on in the game.   This is why your defense tanks.  Becuase your a stupid fuck who can't stop mouthing off like you know what your doing.

This is the reason why you can get away with EH with dumping AC and going w/ blur/displacement/ghostly/dodge etc.   Becuase EH and EE create your hit/defense matrix differently.    On EE if you dumped AC it will tank your chance to defend. 

Believe me, concerning trash mobs there are only 4 classes that you fall into as to whether you are getting hit or not.    It is probably more complex with ongoing fights with raid bosses, but with trash I can tell you it is a much much simpler system than you think it is and it is nothing like what you think you know.  So accept that your  a fucking idiot and move on.
EDIT:  Oh and Bigjunk, I'm sorry if you took offense to anything I said, it wasn't meant to be offensive.

Daggertooth wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 6:09am:


I thought this was familiar.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/263905-Is-AC-40-viable-for-at-endgame?...

Daggertooth, no offense, but you sucked in 2010, sucked before that, and continue to suck.

Revaulting wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 7:38am:


More likely he'll tell us all about Cleave, Web, and something called "character honing" (which abbreviates to "choning" but seems to be something less interesting).

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1339027563/24#24

If you want to see something really scary, you can all find out why we've finally been relieved from being forced to "at least be listening to everyone mouth off over voice chat, even if your too shy to talk"

This is why I was originally crucified/banned from the official forums back in 2006 as my original handle, Vlad the Impaler.    I died so that today you wouldnt have to be subjected to these asshats yammering on infinitely over voice chat.

Basically the entire quality of your lives today is due to me at one point having to have been subjected to you mouthing off like you know what your doing, me beating you senseless, me leaving, and then it taking several years for you to crawl back to your holes and heal long enough to where you can then implement everything I was saying after you think enough time has gone by where no one will notice or  remember the beating I gave you.

Really your all just lucky your mothers were not this foolish when they were in line to receive my seed. 

Daggertooth wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 8:47am:




Other then Daggertooth - did you want to be called El Jefe?

Daggertooth wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 8:47am:


This guy has to be Puerto Potty's brother!

Sergod wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:15am:


I would too.  I read everything he posted but that hasn't been my experience with AC and miss chance...

DoRayEgon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 9:59am:


Basically most systems in DDO are much, much simpler than you think.   This is most likely to keep things flowing on the back end.

When you enter a dungeon, it takes a snapshot of your character and then places you somewhere along a pre-designed curve that is based on the level of the dungeon and the difficulty.

A good example is spell DC's.   If you enter ELite, for example, it basically compares to a checklist of all the things they've determined that a character should have if they think they can do Elite.  (Spell Focus, School DC Item bonus, what your casting stat is vs what it could be if you had everything possible for that level, etc.

It is then further broken down into 3 mob types i.e. reflex, will and fort (quick, tough, caster etc)

Basically rather than each time you go to cast a spell against a certain enemy and it rolling a saving throw, it rather most likely gives you a caster rating, factors in whether you are casting an "approrpirate spell" against that enemy type and then most likely comes up with a much much simpler formula to see if your spell lands... so rather than it being based on a D20 die roll plus a monsters save bonus taken against your actual DC, its most likely more like a 4 or 6 tier system that is based on your calculated 'caster rating' taken against whether you casted an appropriate spell against that type of monster.

So when you enter a dungeon, once your caster rating has been determined you basically fall into 1 of maybe 4 or 5 catagories for landing your spells.. either you do not qualify because you are completely out of range in which case you will never land anything, you fall into rating 1 where you land say 25% of the time, 2 for 50% of the time, 3 for 75% of the time or 4 where you always land that spell (against that mob type).    Casting the wrong spell against a mob type (i.e. casting  reflex based spell against an "agile" class enemy probably bumps you 1 or 2 ratings down.

I am guessing that AC most likely works very similarly.   There is most likely a viable AC range for each dungeon/difficulty... like viable AC range 100-116.   If your AC is below 100 you will get hit 100% of the time (assuming 0 dodge/blur etc), if its over 116 you will most likely avoid all hits (it might cap out at 90%)

As per the argument in this thread, what I am saying is that they are most likely coming up with a different formula and weighing AC differently in Hard and Elite.   In Hard they are basicalllly willing to accommodate 95% of the DDO population, which is what you mostly see in these forums, i.e people who think they know what they're doing and have a handle on things (i.e. "displacement is your friend, don't bother with AC").   But on Epic Elite (or LE etc) they are most likely looking at whether you dumped AC or not and if you did, making your defense chance over all suffer.

Moral to the story is what they are telling you is going on is not whats going on.   

Daggertooth wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2016 at 10:34am:


Qft

So we're to believe that this group of clowns actually designed an independent system that does all of these things while it appears to us that it works as d20 system? These same buttfuckers who can't even get copy/paste abilities right? I suppose I could maybe buy that some bygone devs of yesteryear that actually knew what they were doing may have done it, but is there really any evidence besides, "I know something you don't know...Nanananananana  "